Re: [9fans] Help for home user discovering Plan 9

["Federico G. Benavento" <benavento@gmail.com>]

sorry if I read wrong, but I thought the thread was "Help for home
user discovering Plan 9"
not "FreeBSD and Linux rule" or "Who uses Plan 9?"


On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 7:41 AM, Balwinder S Dheeman <bdheeman@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 04/18/2009 01:02 AM, Gorka Guardiola wrote:
>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Balwinder S Dheeman <bdheeman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Please set aside rare cases and let us know who except for the students,
>>> teachers and, or researchers uses Plan9 and, or Inferno in the offices,
>>> homes and, or cafes and for what?
>>>
>>> The Plan9 project started in 1980, took around 9 years to be solid
>>> enough to be usable and that too by the internal and, or lab people
>>> [http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sys/doc/9.html] only. Whereas, the FreeBSD
>>> and, or Linux (though not an OS or Unix variant in a sense) came into
>>> existence later in 1993 and 1991 respectively are more popular among any
>>> other variants of Unix.
>>
>> That is the difference between coming up with a design an rethinking the
>> system and just copying one and porting software already written. Linux
>> started mostly using all the gnu stuff and copied all the design from already
>> existing Unix things. That of course takes less than rethinking
>> everything carefully
>> from scratch. For example UTF. Among other things.
>>
>> That said what is the points of this discussions?. Use whatever you want
>> and have fun. I use 4 or 5 operating systems
>> for different things. One of them is Plan 9. Not only for teaching but
>> as infrastructure
>> For example this is the CMS for our courses:
>> http://lsub.org/magic/group?o=i&g=c
>> And we ran several labs which runs diskless for teaching and so.
>> This infrastructure serves hundreds of students. I can even have 100 computers
>> running diskless with students with daily automatic incremental backups (venti)
>> using the CMS (yes, with abaco) and compiling and running programs
>> at the same time against one file server. Try that with *any* other
>> operating system
>> (and our hardware infrastructure).
>>
>> Then again, that may not be "solid enough" for you. I happen to work
>> at a University, sorry.
>>
>> I also run Mac OS and use it for web browsing. Windows for several
>> devices (like a USB sniffer) which I don't have drivers nor I do I
>> feel like writing.
>> Linux in my illiad ebook.
>> And inferno/octopus for integrating all this stuff into a usable environment.
>> And some time even others.
>>
>> If Plan 9 is not useful for you nor you get how it can be, good, don't use it.
>>
>> For me it is.
>
> Again, but that's only a rare case, sorry.
>
> I understand your sentiments well, because I also worked as a lecturer
> for about 4 years and I managed to setup such an environment based on
> Linux systems there; that's not a production deployment for any
> commercial and, or industrial use cases.
>
> Let me repeat that the question is/was, "Who uses Plan9 in the Offices,
> homes and, or cafes for commercial and, or industrial application".
>
> I'm not against using, spreading, technology and, or philosophy behind
> Plan9, but am curious to know some solid example cases; no doubt yours
> is one such case though again only educational and, or research related.
>
> Please don't tell/dictate me what I should and, or should't I use.
>
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Federico G. Benavento