* [9fans] 1st and 2nd edition ISOs at p9f.org/dl are defective @ 2021-05-24 21:44 Anonymous AWK fan via 9fans 2021-05-24 22:26 ` Charles Forsyth 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Anonymous AWK fan via 9fans @ 2021-05-24 21:44 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans All file names are lower case (this makes some files inaccessible, because there are sometimes multiple files with the same name) and the modes, owners and groups are all --r--r--r-- (d-r-xr-xr-x for directories), cdrom and iso, respectively. Anonymous AWK fan -- Mailfence.com Private and secure email ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T5f0b8bf3259974e3-Mcef852122ef07ff1d2c5ad3f Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] 1st and 2nd edition ISOs at p9f.org/dl are defective 2021-05-24 21:44 [9fans] 1st and 2nd edition ISOs at p9f.org/dl are defective Anonymous AWK fan via 9fans @ 2021-05-24 22:26 ` Charles Forsyth 2021-05-24 22:50 ` Charles Forsyth 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Charles Forsyth @ 2021-05-24 22:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1513 bytes --] I don't know the answer to the following question, which is why I ask it: does that happen if you use 9660srv under Plan 9 (-ish) to access those images? (Perhaps you already are, but it would still be useful to know.) It's quite a long time ago, but as I recall early CD formats took a literal view of permissions: "I'm on a read-only medium, otherwise you'd be using the later and probably incompatible standard for RW optical, so all my file system permissions are "read". Later people took advantage of having umptieen parallel trees in there in different formats (Joliet for MS, High Sierra for UNIX-ish) and Plan 9 added its own. I think those early CDs relied on that. Later ones added parallel structures in both Joliet and High Sierra format so you could get more accurate meta-date out of the CDs when mounted on Windows or SunOS. On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 10:46 PM Anonymous AWK fan via 9fans < 9fans@9fans.net> wrote: > All file names are lower case (this makes some files inaccessible, > because there are sometimes multiple files with the same name) and the > modes, owners and groups are all --r--r--r-- (d-r-xr-xr-x for > directories), cdrom and iso, respectively. > > Anonymous AWK fan > > -- > Mailfence.com > Private and secure email ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T5f0b8bf3259974e3-M5278d8287de161701114ae08 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 2843 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] 1st and 2nd edition ISOs at p9f.org/dl are defective 2021-05-24 22:26 ` Charles Forsyth @ 2021-05-24 22:50 ` Charles Forsyth 2021-05-24 23:30 ` David du Colombier 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Charles Forsyth @ 2021-05-24 22:50 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1863 bytes --] The 8+3 restriction is related to that. As often now, Wikipedia supplies more detail. Apparently High Sierra was the basis for the original format, not an extension: I was of course confusing it with Rock Ridge. On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 11:26 PM Charles Forsyth <charles.forsyth@gmail.com> wrote: > I don't know the answer to the following question, which is why I ask it: > does that happen if you use 9660srv > under Plan 9 (-ish) to access those images? (Perhaps you already are, but > it would still be useful to know.) > It's quite a long time ago, but as I recall early CD formats took a > literal view of permissions: "I'm on a read-only medium, > otherwise you'd be using the later and probably incompatible standard for > RW optical, so all my file system permissions are "read". > Later people took advantage of having umptieen parallel trees in there in > different formats (Joliet for MS, High Sierra for UNIX-ish) > and Plan 9 added its own. I think those early CDs relied on that. Later > ones added parallel structures in both Joliet and High Sierra > format so you could get more accurate meta-date out of the CDs when > mounted on Windows or SunOS. > > > On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 10:46 PM Anonymous AWK fan via 9fans < > 9fans@9fans.net> wrote: > >> All file names are lower case (this makes some files inaccessible, >> because there are sometimes multiple files with the same name) and the >> modes, owners and groups are all --r--r--r-- (d-r-xr-xr-x for >> directories), cdrom and iso, respectively. >> >> Anonymous AWK fan >> >> -- >> Mailfence.com >> Private and secure email ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T5f0b8bf3259974e3-M1aae943baab476d407c3dab5 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 3454 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] 1st and 2nd edition ISOs at p9f.org/dl are defective 2021-05-24 22:50 ` Charles Forsyth @ 2021-05-24 23:30 ` David du Colombier 2021-05-25 8:22 ` David du Colombier 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: David du Colombier @ 2021-05-24 23:30 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans I can reproduce the issue. i'll look at it and eventually fix the ISO images. I've disabled the Joliet and Plan 9 ISO 9660 extensions in these images, so they look closer to the original images, but the old mk9660 produced a slightly different format than the current one. The tarballs and Git repository are not affected by this issue. -- David du Colombier ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T5f0b8bf3259974e3-Mf8f19d6988285c77f2e92f03 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] 1st and 2nd edition ISOs at p9f.org/dl are defective 2021-05-24 23:30 ` David du Colombier @ 2021-05-25 8:22 ` David du Colombier 0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: David du Colombier @ 2021-05-25 8:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans It should be fixed now. -- David du Colombier ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T5f0b8bf3259974e3-Mfa6c8559824e7874ecf7383b Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
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