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From: "Frank D. Engel, Jr." <fde101@fjrhome.net>
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: Time for 9? :-)
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2026 20:40:45 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <39317b7e-e256-4159-83ce-77f9f362d260@fjrhome.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <D6332323-5408-4386-91B0-0D2E64FBB898@slo.me>

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Most mice with scroll wheels will produce a middle mouse click when you 
press down the scroll wheel.


On 2/4/26 05:09, Adrian wrote:
>
> Make it easy on yourself and start with plan9port, no special hardware 
> needed, and you can shift right click or something to simulate a 
> middle click.
>
>
> On January 28, 2026 8:21:17 PM EST, Michael Jensen 
> <mikethe1wheelnut@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     ..4 months and counting.. ..gotta be some kind of record..
>
>     On Wed, Jan 28, 2026 at 8:19 PM Michael Jensen
>     <mikethe1wheelnut@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>         Still trying to install it.  I've been exploring hardware
>         solutions, have now moved on to qemu.
>
>         On Wed, Dec 31, 2025 at 9:08 AM Michael Jensen
>         <mikethe1wheelnut@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>             The Computer on which the 3-button mouse doesn't work is
>             the same one I already submitted data for.
>
>             On Wed, Dec 31, 2025 at 9:07 AM Michael Jensen
>             <mikethe1wheelnut@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>                 So, I have got to the point where, in principle, I am
>                 willing to learn how to use plan9/9front using a live
>                 session.  I have tried installing it to a usb-key and
>                 got an error that is probably solvable.  I also have
>                 another "ssd" coming in in a week or so that might
>                 work.  The main issue is that the 3-button mouse I got
>                 does not work.  I've known this for a while, at first
>                 it didn't bug me overly.  Now, facing the plunge, I'm
>                 not so sure I want to deal with the irritation of
>                 hardware that isn't designed for the os in question. 
>                 So.. are adopters of this system really supposed to be
>                 up to the level of solving such problems on their
>                 own?  I'm willing, and indeed enthusiastic, about
>                 writing most of my own code, using public code as
>                 inspiration, but solving mouse-driver issues? I'm
>                 already taking criticism for pushing as far as openbsd.
>
>                 On Tue, Dec 30, 2025 at 2:13 PM Michael Jensen
>                 <mikethe1wheelnut@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>                     I have now tried installing 9legacy.  To see if it
>                     would work any better.  On the 3 computers I have
>                     that are currently working.  You might be happy to
>                     know that it worked less well.
>
>                     On Sun, Dec 7, 2025 at 7:04 PM Michael Jensen
>                     <mikethe1wheelnut@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>                         For the record, I have not yet succeeded, but
>                         am still trying, in a manner of speaking. 
>                         Investigating running it in qemu, or using
>                         plan9port.  A tech friend of mine will
>                         probably help eventually, if he doesn't
>                         succeed, he will probably generate info that
>                         might help with the diagnosis.
>
>                         Meanwhile, I am looking into framework
>                         laptops, and have now found something called
>                         the reform.  Somebody claims that is what most
>                         9front people use?
>
>                         https://community.frame.work/t/plan9-9front-on-framework/13991/2
>
>                           Is there one, framework or reform that is
>                         more recommended?  Strongly? Weekly?  For
>                         9front? 9legacy?  I ask, not knowing how often
>                         the FQA is updated.
>
>                         On Sun, Nov 30, 2025 at 8:35 PM Michael Jensen
>                         <mikethe1wheelnut@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>                             ..what?  I do not understand. In all the
>                             tests I just did, for each computer (I did
>                             not test the T420), I did at least one
>                             test where the ordinary Sata drive was not
>                             there, so the only "memory" that could be
>                             seen was either the mSata, the boot
>                             medium, or ram.
>
>                             Ok, this is very strange.. I am trying
>                             again on the T430, which happens to have
>                             both the mSata and it's ordinary Sata,
>                             (coincidence), both register, but it looks
>                             like I now have -two- /data options.
>                             /dev/sdE0/data and /dev/sdE2/data.  As
>                             for  your suggestion, I have tried
>                             accepting the default, which is [], or
>                             nothing, and.. same thing. Infinite loop.
>
>                             ..repeating  the test, with the Sata out,
>                             I get the same thing, (infinite loop),
>                             except that there is now only one
>                             /dev/sdE1/data, with a 1, not 2 or 0.
>
>                             On Sun, Nov 30, 2025 at 6:24 PM
>                             <ori@eigenstate.org> wrote:
>
>                                 Quoth Michael Jensen
>                                 <mikethe1wheelnut@gmail.com>:
>                                 > > Well, I've now done about all I
>                                 can at this end.  As I suddenly suspected
>                                 > > right before the test, connecting
>                                 an msata drive to the computer via an
>                                 > > msata-sata adaptor didn't work. 
>                                 It still looks like a sata.  I assume.
>                                 > >
>                                 > > I how have the msata in the T430,
>                                 and it is at least recognized.  Which
>                                 > > shows that at least -something- is
>                                 working.  However, selecting the boot
>                                 > > drive still fails, same as before,
>                                 asking again and again, an infinite
>                                 > > loop.  In theory I could do the
>                                 same test with the T420, but.. why would
>                                 > > the results be different?
>                                 > >
>                                 > > I can still try the test with this
>                                 computer, the 7440.
>
>                                 Hve you tried *not* selecting the
>                                 first drive?
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-05  2:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2025-11-17  6:07 ` [9fans] Re: Time for 9? :-) ori
2025-11-17 14:20   ` Michael Jensen
2025-11-18 15:06     ` ron minnich
2025-11-18 16:17       ` Ori Bernstein
2025-11-18 16:19       ` Skip Tavakkolian
2025-11-19 13:37         ` Ron Minnich
2025-11-18 16:18     ` Ori Bernstein
2025-11-18 16:35       ` Michael Jensen
2025-11-27  2:19         ` Michael Jensen
2025-11-27 15:48           ` ron minnich
2025-11-28 18:26           ` Michael Jensen
2025-11-28 18:29             ` Michael Jensen
2025-11-30 22:29               ` Michael Jensen
2025-11-30 23:04                 ` Michael Jensen
2025-11-30 23:24                   ` ori
2025-12-01  1:35                     ` Michael Jensen
2025-12-02 21:47                       ` ron minnich
     [not found]                       ` <CAEbY5PFz4RxDZ7pJM2sO15kqKicQ+AQxnKO+KVzSxQy9ZTgDhw@mail.gmail.com>
2025-12-30 19:13                         ` Michael Jensen
2025-12-30 23:59                           ` Clout Tolstoy
2025-12-31 14:07                           ` Michael Jensen
2025-12-31 14:08                             ` Michael Jensen
2025-12-31 17:10                               ` Michael Grunditz
2025-12-31 17:16                               ` ron minnich
2025-12-31 17:23                                 ` ron minnich
2026-01-29  1:19                               ` Michael Jensen
2026-01-29  1:21                                 ` Michael Jensen
2026-01-29 15:10                                   ` Clout Tolstoy
2026-01-29 16:01                                   ` ron minnich
2026-02-04 10:09                                   ` Adrian
2026-02-05  1:40                                     ` Frank D. Engel, Jr. [this message]
2026-02-05  2:57                                       ` hahahahacker2009
2026-02-05 19:17                                         ` Thaddeus Woskowiak
     [not found] <CAEbY5PGvQTmXQuhteP=s_Myq+pa_cPNZQDNVjD2JE7VhmkQaNA@mail.gmail.com>
2025-11-11 21:09 ` ori
     [not found]   ` <CAEbY5PG7faWUcEm9nZ3sAzepg55Vmr2u=9CA1Mr8i9TzrrSDYw@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]     ` <CAEbY5PHegHD1okHXsUpYw_q8mw6WKOQ=E-GyAwHgN6BPYf-tHg@mail.gmail.com>
2025-11-13  4:40       ` Michael Jensen
2025-11-13  5:02         ` ori
2025-11-13 23:57           ` Michael Jensen
2025-11-11  8:23 Jonas Amoson
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2025-09-21 22:03 [9fans] " Michael Jensen
2025-11-10  2:39 ` [9fans] " Michael Jensen
2025-11-10  4:35   ` Ori Bernstein
2025-11-10  5:34     ` Michael Jensen
     [not found]     ` <CAEbY5PE-2B9q_0kVEcPkTjz87SE1p76H-ro6kW4ABraRNg6kqg@mail.gmail.com>
2025-11-10 20:41       ` Michael Jensen
     [not found]         ` <CAEbY5PHkQmUsBUqX12zzYBuMSZ+tdG=617uy3-pmSVWUwrPM2g@mail.gmail.com>
2025-11-11  4:17           ` Michael Jensen
2025-11-11  5:02             ` ori
2025-11-11 12:58             ` Frank D. Engel, Jr.
2025-11-10 12:54   ` Andreas.Elding via 9fans

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