From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <398708D2-A5AB-409F-BCE5-7FA9CC8EFAB4@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> From: Pietro Gagliardi Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:18:02 -0400 Subject: [9fans] Plan 9 installation disc question Topicbox-Message-UUID: d6c23510-ead2-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 Hello. I have a simple question about the installation disc: it didn't work on my iMac because it stuck on the second line with some four letter word followed by 0C00. I'm not sure what that means, but I think it is because it's trying to boot x86-32 when my iMac is x86-64. Is there a separate installation disc for each processor architecture? Thanks. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <4f2d3f77f7e81e0f1cac4c049b88bbc2@coraid.com> From: erik quanstrom Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:27:23 -0400 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9 installation disc question In-Reply-To: <398708D2-A5AB-409F-BCE5-7FA9CC8EFAB4@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Topicbox-Message-UUID: d6ecacbe-ead2-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > Hello. I have a simple question about the installation disc: it > didn't work on my iMac because it stuck on the second line with some > four letter word followed by 0C00. I'm not sure what that means, but > I think it is because it's trying to boot x86-32 when my iMac is > x86-64. Is there a separate installation disc for each processor > architecture? Thanks. x86-64 is compatable with x86-32 in 32-bit mode. one has to fiddle cr registers &c to turn on 64-bit mode, just like one has to fiddle cr registers &c to turn on 32-bit mode. (maybe efi does this for you. i don't know.) since the plan 9 pc kernel doesn't do any 64-bit mode stuff, this should not be the issue. the four-letter word is ELCR. 0x0000 -> all edge-triggered 8259 irqs. - erik From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <3e1162e60710231532v5e995af1g992b79620b56a7b2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:32:25 -0700 From: "David Leimbach" To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9 installation disc question In-Reply-To: <398708D2-A5AB-409F-BCE5-7FA9CC8EFAB4@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1674_30092998.1193178745471" References: <398708D2-A5AB-409F-BCE5-7FA9CC8EFAB4@mac.com> Topicbox-Message-UUID: d6f1ae6c-ead2-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 ------=_Part_1674_30092998.1193178745471 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 10/23/07, Pietro Gagliardi wrote: > > Hello. I have a simple question about the installation disc: it > didn't work on my iMac because it stuck on the second line with some > four letter word followed by 0C00. I'm not sure what that means, but > I think it is because it's trying to boot x86-32 when my iMac is > x86-64. Is there a separate installation disc for each processor > architecture? Thanks. > Mac OS X is still 32bit last I checked. You're likely having an EFI related issue. ------=_Part_1674_30092998.1193178745471 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

On 10/23/07, Pietro Gagliardi <pietro10@mac.com> wrote:
Hello. I have a simple question about the installation disc: it
didn't work on my iMac because it stuck on the second line with some
four letter word followed by 0C00. I'm not sure what that means, but
I think it is because it's trying to boot x86-32 when my iMac is
x86-64. Is there a separate installation disc for each processor
architecture? Thanks.

Mac OS X is still 32bit last I checked.  You're likely having an EFI related issue.


------=_Part_1674_30092998.1193178745471-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <3e1162e60710231532v5e995af1g992b79620b56a7b2@mail.gmail.com> References: <398708D2-A5AB-409F-BCE5-7FA9CC8EFAB4@mac.com> <3e1162e60710231532v5e995af1g992b79620b56a7b2@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Pietro Gagliardi Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9 installation disc question Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:36:50 -0400 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Topicbox-Message-UUID: d6f5c628-ead2-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 Exactly what issue I am having is unknown to me. Does anyone know any place I can ask? PS - I originally wanted to install Plan 9 on my iMac but after that didn't help (it froze at ELCR : 0C00 - not 0000) I wound up going to my basement computer, a Dell Dimension 2400 with Edubuntu (a Linux distro for educational purposes) and successfully installed and initialized Plan 9 from Bell Labs. But the Broadcom chip thing and having to go upstairs/downstairs is not my idea of a fun day experimenting :-) PSS - The Intel chips are 64-bit ready, otherwise they wouldn't run OS X Leopard! :-) On Oct 23, 2007, at 6:32 PM, David Leimbach wrote: > > > On 10/23/07, Pietro Gagliardi wrote: Hello. I > have a simple question about the installation disc: it > didn't work on my iMac because it stuck on the second line with some > four letter word followed by 0C00. I'm not sure what that means, but > I think it is because it's trying to boot x86-32 when my iMac is > x86-64. Is there a separate installation disc for each processor > architecture? Thanks. > > Mac OS X is still 32bit last I checked. You're likely having an > EFI related issue. > > From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <3e1162e60710231532v5e995af1g992b79620b56a7b2@mail.gmail.com> References: <398708D2-A5AB-409F-BCE5-7FA9CC8EFAB4@mac.com> <3e1162e60710231532v5e995af1g992b79620b56a7b2@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Lyndon Nerenberg Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9 installation disc question Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:40:22 -0700 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Topicbox-Message-UUID: d76f6f3c-ead2-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On 2007-Oct-23, at 15:32 , David Leimbach wrote: > Mac OS X is still 32bit last I checked. That changes on Oct. 26 :-) From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <3e1162e60710231540m39fdc295h2038abb081cca824@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:40:30 -0700 From: "David Leimbach" To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9 installation disc question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1683_21218474.1193179230296" References: <398708D2-A5AB-409F-BCE5-7FA9CC8EFAB4@mac.com> <3e1162e60710231532v5e995af1g992b79620b56a7b2@mail.gmail.com> Topicbox-Message-UUID: d77f501e-ead2-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 ------=_Part_1683_21218474.1193179230296 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 10/23/07, Pietro Gagliardi wrote: > > Exactly what issue I am having is unknown to me. Does anyone know any > place I can ask? > > PS - I originally wanted to install Plan 9 on my iMac but after that > didn't help (it froze at ELCR : 0C00 - not 0000) I wound up going to > my basement computer, a Dell Dimension 2400 with Edubuntu (a Linux > distro for educational purposes) and successfully installed and > initialized Plan 9 from Bell Labs. But the Broadcom chip thing and > having to go upstairs/downstairs is not my idea of a fun day > experimenting :-) Hmmm use drawterm from the Mac? I'm having no fun trying to get Plan 9 on VMWare Fusion either :-) > PSS - The Intel chips are 64-bit ready, otherwise they wouldn't run > OS X Leopard! :-) That's not true either. Early imacs, macbooks, and macbook pros weren't Core2Duos which means they're 32bit only. Leopard will support 32bit, 64bit Intel and PPC platforms within the last few years. Dave ------=_Part_1683_21218474.1193179230296 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

On 10/23/07, Pietro Gagliardi <pietro10@mac.com> wrote:
Exactly what issue I am having is unknown to me. Does anyone know any
place I can ask?

PS - I originally wanted to install Plan 9 on my iMac but after that
didn't help (it froze at ELCR : 0C00 - not 0000) I wound up going to
my basement computer, a Dell Dimension 2400 with Edubuntu (a Linux
distro for educational purposes) and successfully installed and
initialized Plan 9 from Bell Labs. But the Broadcom chip thing and
having to go upstairs/downstairs is not my idea of a fun day
experimenting :-)

Hmmm use drawterm from the Mac?  

I'm having no fun trying to get Plan 9 on VMWare Fusion either :-)
 
PSS - The Intel chips are 64-bit ready, otherwise they wouldn't run
OS X Leopard! :-)


That's not true either.  Early imacs, macbooks, and macbook pros weren't Core2Duos which means they're 32bit only.

Leopard will support 32bit, 64bit Intel and PPC platforms within the last few years.

Dave

 

------=_Part_1683_21218474.1193179230296-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9 installation disc question In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:32:25 PDT." <3e1162e60710231532v5e995af1g992b79620b56a7b2@mail.gmail.com> From: Bakul Shah Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:32:29 -0700 Message-Id: <20071024033229.2F6265B3E@mail.bitblocks.com> Topicbox-Message-UUID: d794b33c-ead2-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > Mac OS X is still 32bit last I checked. You're likely having an EFI related > issue. MacOS X 10.4.9+ is already 64 bit capable, at least on the MacBook Pro $ sysctl machdep.cpu.brand_string machdep.cpu.brand_string: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7400 @ 2.16GHz $ sysctl hw.optional.x86_64 hw.optional.x86_64: 1 $ cat > ilp.c int main(int c, char**v) { printf("i:%d l:%d ll:%d p:%d\n", sizeof(int), sizeof(long), sizeof(long long), sizeof(void*)); } EOF $ cc -m32 ilp.c -o ilp4 $ cc -m64 ilp.c -o ilp8 $ file ilp4 ilp8 ilp4: Mach-O executable i386 ilp8: Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64 $ ilp4 i:4 l:4 L:8 p:4 $ ilp8 i:4 l:8 L:8 p:8 From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <979725c722115ff76d41b4f3c59008d8@terzarima.net> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: Charles Forsyth Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:18:01 +0100 In-Reply-To: <398708D2-A5AB-409F-BCE5-7FA9CC8EFAB4@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] old things Topicbox-Message-UUID: d828982c-ead2-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 i thought a few others on the list might be interested in this one (unless you're Jeff Sengstack, who hated it) http://www.amazon.com/Core-Memory-Visual-Vintage-Computers/dp/0811854426/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-6107134-4632847?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1180826552&sr=8-1 amazon's key phrases are a little odd: Key Phrases: core memory, Gene Amdahl, Defense Department, World War i see that it offers a unique description of the first production Google machine, too From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <3e1162e60710240930y27c36100m39062bd3b4743b59@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 09:30:58 -0700 From: "David Leimbach" To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9 installation disc question In-Reply-To: <20071024033229.2F6265B3E@mail.bitblocks.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3879_26864458.1193243458945" References: <3e1162e60710231532v5e995af1g992b79620b56a7b2@mail.gmail.com> <20071024033229.2F6265B3E@mail.bitblocks.com> Topicbox-Message-UUID: d85c3c90-ead2-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 ------=_Part_3879_26864458.1193243458945 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 10/23/07, Bakul Shah wrote: > > > Mac OS X is still 32bit last I checked. You're likely having an EFI > related > > issue. > > MacOS X 10.4.9+ is already 64 bit capable, at least on the > MacBook Pro > > $ sysctl machdep.cpu.brand_string > machdep.cpu.brand_string: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7400 @ 2.16GHz > > $ sysctl hw.optional.x86_64 > hw.optional.x86_64: 1 > > $ cat > ilp.c #include > int main(int c, char**v) { > printf("i:%d l:%d ll:%d p:%d\n", > sizeof(int), sizeof(long), sizeof(long long), sizeof(void*)); > } > EOF > > $ cc -m32 ilp.c -o ilp4 > $ cc -m64 ilp.c -o ilp8 > > $ file ilp4 ilp8 > ilp4: Mach-O executable i386 > ilp8: Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64 > > $ ilp4 > i:4 l:4 L:8 p:4 > $ ilp8 > i:4 l:8 L:8 p:8 > it's increasingly offtopic but yes :-) The whole system is not 64bit end to end. Objective C and Cocoa aren't yet 64bit, and I've yet to fail to get alignment errors with certain C memory allocation functions on my MBP with Tiger. I hope it's all fixed Friday, not that I see me using 64bit apps too much, I don't think I have enough RAM, even if the extra registers give me a bit of a performance boost :-) Dave ------=_Part_3879_26864458.1193243458945 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

On 10/23/07, Bakul Shah <bakul+plan9@bitblocks.com> wrote:
> Mac OS X is still 32bit last I checked.  You're likely having an EFI related
> issue.

MacOS X 10.4.9+ is already 64 bit capable, at least on the
MacBook Pro

$ sysctl machdep.cpu.brand_string
machdep.cpu.brand_string: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU         T7400  @ 2.16GHz

$ sysctl hw.optional.x86_64
hw.optional.x86_64: 1

$ cat > ilp.c <EOF
#include <stdio.h>
int main(int c, char**v) {
    printf("i:%d l:%d ll:%d p:%d\n",
           sizeof(int), sizeof(long), sizeof(long long), sizeof(void*));
}
EOF

$ cc -m32 ilp.c -o ilp4
$ cc -m64 ilp.c -o ilp8

$ file ilp4 ilp8
ilp4: Mach-O executable i386
ilp8: Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64

$ ilp4
i:4 l:4 L:8 p:4
$ ilp8
i:4 l:8 L:8 p:8

it's increasingly offtopic but yes :-)

The whole system is not 64bit end to end.  Objective C and Cocoa aren't yet 64bit, and I've yet to fail to get alignment errors with certain C memory allocation functions on my MBP with Tiger.

I hope it's all fixed Friday, not that I see me using 64bit apps too much, I don't think I have enough RAM, even if the extra registers give me a bit of a performance boost  :-)

Dave
------=_Part_3879_26864458.1193243458945-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <3e1162e60710240930y27c36100m39062bd3b4743b59@mail.gmail.com> References: <3e1162e60710231532v5e995af1g992b79620b56a7b2@mail.gmail.com> <20071024033229.2F6265B3E@mail.bitblocks.com> <3e1162e60710240930y27c36100m39062bd3b4743b59@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <513EA329-79A6-425B-A764-0798FDD6AF03@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Pietro Gagliardi Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9 installation disc question Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:14:52 -0400 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Topicbox-Message-UUID: d8618088-ead2-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 OK, that's fine. So I still don't know what is wrong, but I'll try drawterm when I get Plan 9 up on the network (see my Broadcom emails; I'm buying a card soon) On Oct 24, 2007, at 12:30 PM, David Leimbach wrote: > > > On 10/23/07, Bakul Shah wrote: > Mac OS > X is still 32bit last I checked. You're likely having an EFI related > > issue. > > MacOS X 10.4.9+ is already 64 bit capable, at least on the > MacBook Pro > > $ sysctl machdep.cpu.brand_string > machdep.cpu.brand_string: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7400 @ > 2.16GHz > > $ sysctl hw.optional.x86_64 > hw.optional.x86_64: 1 > > $ cat > ilp.c #include > int main(int c, char**v) { > printf("i:%d l:%d ll:%d p:%d\n", > sizeof(int), sizeof(long), sizeof(long long), sizeof > (void*)); > } > EOF > > $ cc -m32 ilp.c -o ilp4 > $ cc -m64 ilp.c -o ilp8 > > $ file ilp4 ilp8 > ilp4: Mach-O executable i386 > ilp8: Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64 > > $ ilp4 > i:4 l:4 L:8 p:4 > $ ilp8 > i:4 l:8 L:8 p:8 > > it's increasingly offtopic but yes :-) > > The whole system is not 64bit end to end. Objective C and Cocoa > aren't yet 64bit, and I've yet to fail to get alignment errors with > certain C memory allocation functions on my MBP with Tiger. > > I hope it's all fixed Friday, not that I see me using 64bit apps > too much, I don't think I have enough RAM, even if the extra > registers give me a bit of a performance boost :-) > > Dave From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <3e1162e60710241222md620d3dyb2b5f849a19c60c2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:22:44 -0700 From: "David Leimbach" To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9 installation disc question In-Reply-To: <513EA329-79A6-425B-A764-0798FDD6AF03@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4394_26117693.1193253764659" References: <3e1162e60710231532v5e995af1g992b79620b56a7b2@mail.gmail.com> <20071024033229.2F6265B3E@mail.bitblocks.com> <3e1162e60710240930y27c36100m39062bd3b4743b59@mail.gmail.com> <513EA329-79A6-425B-A764-0798FDD6AF03@mac.com> Topicbox-Message-UUID: d8671dfe-ead2-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 ------=_Part_4394_26117693.1193253764659 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 10/24/07, Pietro Gagliardi wrote: > > OK, that's fine. So I still don't know what is wrong, but I'll try > drawterm when I get Plan 9 up on the network (see my Broadcom emails; > I'm buying a card soon) I gave up on graphics for VMWare Fusion Plan 9, going to resort to drawterm I think. However my venti is hanging and the CPU on my MBP is getting awfully fast on the first boot after install and I login with glenda. On Oct 24, 2007, at 12:30 PM, David Leimbach wrote: > > > > > > > On 10/23/07, Bakul Shah wrote: > Mac OS > > X is still 32bit last I checked. You're likely having an EFI related > > > issue. > > > > MacOS X 10.4.9+ is already 64 bit capable, at least on the > > MacBook Pro > > > > $ sysctl machdep.cpu.brand_string > > machdep.cpu.brand_string: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7400 @ > > 2.16GHz > > > > $ sysctl hw.optional.x86_64 > > hw.optional.x86_64: 1 > > > > $ cat > ilp.c > #include > > int main(int c, char**v) { > > printf("i:%d l:%d ll:%d p:%d\n", > > sizeof(int), sizeof(long), sizeof(long long), sizeof > > (void*)); > > } > > EOF > > > > $ cc -m32 ilp.c -o ilp4 > > $ cc -m64 ilp.c -o ilp8 > > > > $ file ilp4 ilp8 > > ilp4: Mach-O executable i386 > > ilp8: Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64 > > > > $ ilp4 > > i:4 l:4 L:8 p:4 > > $ ilp8 > > i:4 l:8 L:8 p:8 > > > > it's increasingly offtopic but yes :-) > > > > The whole system is not 64bit end to end. Objective C and Cocoa > > aren't yet 64bit, and I've yet to fail to get alignment errors with > > certain C memory allocation functions on my MBP with Tiger. > > > > I hope it's all fixed Friday, not that I see me using 64bit apps > > too much, I don't think I have enough RAM, even if the extra > > registers give me a bit of a performance boost :-) > > > > Dave > > ------=_Part_4394_26117693.1193253764659 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

On 10/24/07, Pietro Gagliardi <pietro10@mac.com> wrote:
OK, that's fine. So I still don't know what is wrong, but I'll try
drawterm when I get Plan 9 up on the network (see my Broadcom emails;
I'm buying a card soon)


I gave up on graphics for VMWare Fusion Plan 9, going to resort to drawterm I think.  However my venti is hanging and the CPU on my MBP is getting awfully fast on the first boot after install and I login with glenda.
 

On Oct 24, 2007, at 12:30 PM, David Leimbach wrote:

>
>
> On 10/23/07, Bakul Shah < bakul+plan9@bitblocks.com> wrote: > Mac OS
> X is still 32bit last I checked.  You're likely having an EFI related
> > issue.
>
> MacOS X 10.4.9+ is already 64 bit capable, at least on the
> MacBook Pro
>
> $ sysctl machdep.cpu.brand_string
> machdep.cpu.brand_string: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU         T7400  @
> 2.16GHz
>
> $ sysctl hw.optional.x86_64
> hw.optional.x86_64: 1
>
> $ cat > ilp.c <EOF
> #include <stdio.h>
> int main(int c, char**v) {
>     printf("i:%d l:%d ll:%d p:%d\n",
>            sizeof(int), sizeof(long), sizeof(long long), sizeof
> (void*));
> }
> EOF
>
> $ cc -m32 ilp.c -o ilp4
> $ cc -m64 ilp.c -o ilp8
>
> $ file ilp4 ilp8
> ilp4: Mach-O executable i386
> ilp8: Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64
>
> $ ilp4
> i:4 l:4 L:8 p:4
> $ ilp8
> i:4 l:8 L:8 p:8
>
> it's increasingly offtopic but yes :-)
>
> The whole system is not 64bit end to end.  Objective C and Cocoa
> aren't yet 64bit, and I've yet to fail to get alignment errors with
> certain C memory allocation functions on my MBP with Tiger.
>
> I hope it's all fixed Friday, not that I see me using 64bit apps
> too much, I don't think I have enough RAM, even if the extra
> registers give me a bit of a performance boost  :-)
>
> Dave


------=_Part_4394_26117693.1193253764659-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <3e1162e60710241222md620d3dyb2b5f849a19c60c2@mail.gmail.com> References: <3e1162e60710231532v5e995af1g992b79620b56a7b2@mail.gmail.com> <20071024033229.2F6265B3E@mail.bitblocks.com> <3e1162e60710240930y27c36100m39062bd3b4743b59@mail.gmail.com> <513EA329-79A6-425B-A764-0798FDD6AF03@mac.com> <3e1162e60710241222md620d3dyb2b5f849a19c60c2@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <9C4D3C46-AB6E-4A74-AD5A-C72058FCB3D0@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Pietro Gagliardi Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9 installation disc question Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:25:12 -0400 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Topicbox-Message-UUID: d88d6f5e-ead2-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 I was trying this out via Boot Camp, and it stuck before the CD menu even showed up. At least you got it booting! :-) On Oct 24, 2007, at 3:22 PM, David Leimbach wrote: > > > On 10/24/07, Pietro Gagliardi wrote: OK, that's > fine. So I still don't know what is wrong, but I'll try > drawterm when I get Plan 9 up on the network (see my Broadcom emails; > I'm buying a card soon) > > > I gave up on graphics for VMWare Fusion Plan 9, going to resort to > drawterm I think. However my venti is hanging and the CPU on my > MBP is getting awfully fast on the first boot after install and I > login with glenda. > > > On Oct 24, 2007, at 12:30 PM, David Leimbach wrote: > > > > > > > On 10/23/07, Bakul Shah < bakul+plan9@bitblocks.com> wrote: > Mac OS > > X is still 32bit last I checked. You're likely having an EFI > related > > > issue. > > > > MacOS X 10.4.9+ is already 64 bit capable, at least on the > > MacBook Pro > > > > $ sysctl machdep.cpu.brand_string > > machdep.cpu.brand_string: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7400 @ > > 2.16GHz > > > > $ sysctl hw.optional.x86_64 > > hw.optional.x86_64: 1 > > > > $ cat > ilp.c > #include > > int main(int c, char**v) { > > printf("i:%d l:%d ll:%d p:%d\n", > > sizeof(int), sizeof(long), sizeof(long long), sizeof > > (void*)); > > } > > EOF > > > > $ cc -m32 ilp.c -o ilp4 > > $ cc -m64 ilp.c -o ilp8 > > > > $ file ilp4 ilp8 > > ilp4: Mach-O executable i386 > > ilp8: Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64 > > > > $ ilp4 > > i:4 l:4 L:8 p:4 > > $ ilp8 > > i:4 l:8 L:8 p:8 > > > > it's increasingly offtopic but yes :-) > > > > The whole system is not 64bit end to end. Objective C and Cocoa > > aren't yet 64bit, and I've yet to fail to get alignment errors with > > certain C memory allocation functions on my MBP with Tiger. > > > > I hope it's all fixed Friday, not that I see me using 64bit apps > > too much, I don't think I have enough RAM, even if the extra > > registers give me a bit of a performance boost :-) > > > > Dave > >