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From: "Douglas A. Gwyn" <gwyn@arl.army.mil>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] micro vs monolithic kernels
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 08:59:13 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3AD23FB2.7FA0418C@arl.army.mil> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.96.1010409171241.14587c-100000@einstein.ssz.com>

Jim Choate wrote:
> I can take a newbie and have them walk through my teams script
> (it's mostly automated) and they can do it almost as fast.

Well, yeah, if you have a procedure already worked out then
of course it's a lot faster.  The same would apply for Plan
9.  You're still comparing apples and oranges (work needed
the first time you encounter the system vs. work needed
after you've created streamlined procedures).

You should also consider what it is that you end up with.
The best-configured Windows system is still inadequate
(without a lot of third-party software) for anyone who
wants the kind of flexibility found in UNIXy environments.
This reflects a difference in customer base for Windows
vs. research platforms; Microsoft always favors appearance
over substance because that is what their users respond to.


  reply	other threads:[~2001-04-10  8:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-04-09 21:43 Russ Cox
2001-04-09 22:16 ` Jim Choate
2001-04-10  8:59   ` Douglas A. Gwyn [this message]
2001-04-10  9:00   ` Boyd Roberts
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-04-17  8:35 nemo
2001-04-10 11:56 forsyth
2001-04-10 11:50 forsyth
2001-04-10 11:35 Matt
2001-04-10 10:52 forsyth
     [not found] <200104092210.RAA06371@einstein.ssz.com>
2001-04-09 22:12 ` Jim Choate
2001-04-10  9:00   ` Boyd Roberts
2001-04-09 22:00 jmk
2001-04-09 22:30 ` Jim Choate
2001-04-09 21:47 presotto
2001-04-09 21:15 Russ Cox
2001-04-09 21:52 ` Jim Choate
2001-04-09 21:36   ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2001-04-09 22:08     ` Jim Choate
2001-04-09 22:34       ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2001-04-10  0:45       ` Steve Kilbane
2001-04-10  0:28         ` Jim Choate
2001-04-10  8:18           ` Steve Kilbane
2001-04-10  8:57       ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2001-04-09 21:40   ` William Josephson
2001-04-09 22:10     ` Jim Choate
2001-04-09 22:16       ` William Josephson
2001-04-09 22:42   ` Dan Cross
2001-04-09 23:10     ` Jim Choate
2001-04-10  0:30       ` Dan Cross
2001-04-09 22:10 ` Mike Haertel
     [not found] <john@cs.york.ac.uk>
2001-04-09 14:33 ` John A. Murdie
2001-04-09 23:31   ` Steve Kilbane
2001-04-09 10:19 forsyth
2001-04-09  9:09 forsyth
2001-04-09  9:32 ` Dave Iafrate - CSCI/F1997
2001-04-09 16:14   ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2001-04-08 19:36 presotto
2001-04-08 17:55 Andrey A Mirtchovski

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