From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: David Rubin Message-ID: <3ADFE933.9B2449CB@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20010419215900.07C31199F1@mail.cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] X on Plan 9 Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 09:55:31 +0000 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 8b0fe8d2-eac9-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 anothy@cosym.net wrote: > > //i added 'look' to it, but rob said it made > //the button 2 menu too long. > > oo! i've been thinking about giving that a shot in rio. while i can > certainly understand the "keep the menu short" argument, i'd be all > to happy to dump cut, paste, and snarf from my button 2 menu (i use > chording exclusively for that). don't suppose you've given that > change a shot in rio already? Sorry, but what's "look?" BTW, Boyd, I've been using 9term on Linux for ~6 months now, and it's been good to me. I did try to add chording to it which was a varied success. I got very very close, but not quite there. I still have to jiggle the mouse a little to create a "paste" event if I cut/paste in place. I gave up at that point. > 9wm and 9term are a poor substitute for rio, yes, but i like them > much more than [ftm]*wm and xterm, for example. and they're a lot > closer to their targets than wily is to its. That's for sure. Sam on Linux (at least) is a lot better than Wily too, mostly because wily takes ages to search a file loaded over the network. Sam is very quick in this regard. I do wish there was chording in Sam, but I respect rob's comment (earlier) that it was hard to integrate into Sam's split architecture. > ideally, i'd get another machine to run Unix locally, and run these > apps on that. but cash is tight right now. dual-booting isn't an > acceptable option as it means taking down Plan 9, where i do the > overwhelming majority of my work/play. This just means we have to write more and more usable applications for plan9. No surprise. david -- FORTRAN was the language of choice for the same reason that three-legged races are popular. -- Ken Thompson, "Reflections on Trusting Trust"