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* RE: [9fans] Parallels Mac OS X Configuration document (networking is
@ 2006-06-14 14:25 Retzki, Sascha [Xplain]
  2006-06-14 14:36 ` Ronald G Minnich
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Retzki, Sascha [Xplain] @ 2006-06-14 14:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs

> -----Original Message-----
> Another interesting path might be to run Plan 9 like L4 Linux using L4
> as the "hypervisor" of sorts.  Linux seems to do better on L4 than on
> Xen performance wise by some numbers I've seen.

RAVE MODE: ON
	Maybe because of the XML-RPC in Xen...
EOR


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* Re: [9fans] Parallels Mac OS X Configuration document (networking is
  2006-06-14 14:25 [9fans] Parallels Mac OS X Configuration document (networking is Retzki, Sascha [Xplain]
@ 2006-06-14 14:36 ` Ronald G Minnich
  2006-06-14 15:21   ` David Leimbach
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Ronald G Minnich @ 2006-06-14 14:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs

Retzki, Sascha [Xplain] wrote:
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Another interesting path might be to run Plan 9 like L4 Linux using L4
>>as the "hypervisor" of sorts.  Linux seems to do better on L4 than on
>>Xen performance wise by some numbers I've seen.
> 
> 
> RAVE MODE: ON
> 	Maybe because of the XML-RPC in Xen...
> EOR

as much as I dislike xml-rpc in xen, that is not an issue here.

let me know if you get l4 to actually *build* on linux ...

ron


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* Re: [9fans] Parallels Mac OS X Configuration document (networking is
  2006-06-14 14:36 ` Ronald G Minnich
@ 2006-06-14 15:21   ` David Leimbach
  2006-06-14 15:50     ` Ronald G Minnich
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: David Leimbach @ 2006-06-14 15:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs

On 6/14/06, Ronald G Minnich <rminnich@lanl.gov> wrote:
> Retzki, Sascha [Xplain] wrote:
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>Another interesting path might be to run Plan 9 like L4 Linux using L4
> >>as the "hypervisor" of sorts.  Linux seems to do better on L4 than on
> >>Xen performance wise by some numbers I've seen.
> >
> >
> > RAVE MODE: ON
> >       Maybe because of the XML-RPC in Xen...
> > EOR
>
> as much as I dislike xml-rpc in xen, that is not an issue here.
>
> let me know if you get l4 to actually *build* on linux ...

I've cross compiled it many times on PowerPC Macs with an ELF
toolchain.  I've not tried it recently though on any platform, but I
have plans to.  That was just the demo applications though all built
together into a "piggybacked" binary, since there was no GRUB
available for multi-boot loading on PPC at the time.  (though GRUB2 is
supposed to support that)

I presume we're talking about Pistachio also?

Dave

>
> ron
>


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* Re: [9fans] Parallels Mac OS X Configuration document (networking is
  2006-06-14 15:21   ` David Leimbach
@ 2006-06-14 15:50     ` Ronald G Minnich
  2006-06-15  0:16       ` David Leimbach
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Ronald G Minnich @ 2006-06-14 15:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs

afterburner would not build in early trials for me.

ron


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* Re: [9fans] Parallels Mac OS X Configuration document (networking is
  2006-06-14 15:50     ` Ronald G Minnich
@ 2006-06-15  0:16       ` David Leimbach
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: David Leimbach @ 2006-06-15  0:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs

Afterburner is not something I tried at all in my time with Pistachio.

On 6/14/06, Ronald G Minnich <rminnich@lanl.gov> wrote:
> afterburner would not build in early trials for me.
>
> ron
>


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* Re: [9fans] Parallels Mac OS X Configuration document (networking is
  2006-06-14 14:17   ` David Leimbach
@ 2006-06-14 15:37     ` Jack Johnson
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Jack Johnson @ 2006-06-14 15:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs

On 6/14/06, David Leimbach <leimy2k@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well Xen 3.0 supposedly supports the same hardware extensions Intel
> has for virtualizing OSes.  In theory if you had an Intel Core Duo or
> Core Solo (or Merom or Conroe which are of the Core 2 Duo family) you
> could use either Xen or Parallels to run OSes "unmodified".  At least
> that's the marketing.

I didn't realize Parallels had Windows and Linux versions (probably
because I don't have a Duo handy).

Has anyone tried Plan 9 unmodified on a non-Mac Duo with Parallels?  I
see they have a 30-day demo.

-Jack


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* Re: [9fans] Parallels Mac OS X Configuration document (networking is
  2006-06-14  8:11 ` [9fans] Parallels Mac OS X Configuration document (networking is Richard Miller
  2006-06-14 13:49   ` Ronald G Minnich
@ 2006-06-14 14:17   ` David Leimbach
  2006-06-14 15:37     ` Jack Johnson
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: David Leimbach @ 2006-06-14 14:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs

On 6/14/06, Richard Miller <9fans@hamnavoe.com> wrote:
> > (may work with their Linux/Windows versions too)
>
> I've just been re-working the Plan 9 xen port to make it compatible with
> Xen 3.0.  Does parallels on linux make this obsolete?
>
> -- Richard
>

Well Xen 3.0 supposedly supports the same hardware extensions Intel
has for virtualizing OSes.  In theory if you had an Intel Core Duo or
Core Solo (or Merom or Conroe which are of the Core 2 Duo family) you
could use either Xen or Parallels to run OSes "unmodified".  At least
that's the marketing.

Xen will likely be more popular than Parallels on Linux due to it's
free beer nature, and is likely worth a shot.

Another interesting path might be to run Plan 9 like L4 Linux using L4
as the "hypervisor" of sorts.  Linux seems to do better on L4 than on
Xen performance wise by some numbers I've seen.

I think Xen is more approachable than L4 though, in general, and the
port's already been done before.


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* Re: [9fans] Parallels Mac OS X Configuration document (networking is
  2006-06-14  8:11 ` [9fans] Parallels Mac OS X Configuration document (networking is Richard Miller
@ 2006-06-14 13:49   ` Ronald G Minnich
  2006-06-14 14:17   ` David Leimbach
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Ronald G Minnich @ 2006-06-14 13:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs

Richard Miller wrote:
>>(may work with their Linux/Windows versions too)
> 
> 
> I've just been re-working the Plan 9 xen port to make it compatible with
> Xen 3.0.  Does parallels on linux make this obsolete?
> 
> -- Richard
> 

no, because xen is shipped by linux distro vendors. A xen port is a good 
idea I think, unless it's such a pain that you don't want to fool with 
it :-)

ron


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* Re: [9fans] Parallels Mac OS X Configuration document (networking is
  2006-06-14  4:09 [9fans] Parallels Mac OS X Configuration document (networking is functional) David Leimbach
@ 2006-06-14  8:11 ` Richard Miller
  2006-06-14 13:49   ` Ronald G Minnich
  2006-06-14 14:17   ` David Leimbach
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Richard Miller @ 2006-06-14  8:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

> (may work with their Linux/Windows versions too)

I've just been re-working the Plan 9 xen port to make it compatible with
Xen 3.0.  Does parallels on linux make this obsolete?

-- Richard



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