From: Pietro Gagliardi <pietro10@mac.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Using the Acme Editor
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:41:47 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3BAC07E3-B49C-4CE5-8151-D6ACC041E1FA@mac.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1A65C224C4D988F3504822E7@computer>
I'm sorry, but this needs a comment.
On Aug 20, 2008, at 5:46 PM, Eris Discordia wrote:
>> As Pietro demonstrated, no interface configuration is necessary here.
>
> Only because the concept is hidden in Plan 9, though I don't know
> how. _Someone_ or _something_ has to decide whether to route your
> packets through, say, a ppp interface or an eth interface--when both
> interfaces are present--and to do that according to configuration.
> That won't happen on its own.
The program does so. What happens is the program sets up a 9P server
that runs in the background as a background process. It takes care of
everything. The user never needs to actually say "my cell phone is
interfacing off a proprietary network" because the program will take
care of that. ftpfs, for instance, doesn't ask the user for port
number, ASCII/Binary mode, etc. More elaborate FTP programs do, and I
don't know why.
> When P. G. suggested an imaginary "motorola" file server he never
> said how the file server is supposed to access the cellular network.
> If it's going to happen by tunnelling through another protocol, e.g.
> IP, then the question remains of _which_ interface to choose from.
> And if it's going to happen over some special protocol then it must
> occupy a place on the network stack over some _configured_ network
> interface.
Like I just said, the program does all of that. Take a look at srv,
which can connect to both local and remote servers.
> On a different note, what purpose did his "-M 'RAZR V3' 555 555
> 5555" switches serve? Don't they qualify as interface configuration?
No. -M 'RAZR V3' simply says the model of the phone. It does not say
over what protocol, serial number, or connection type. And 555 555
5555 is a phone number that is required for obvious reasons.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-08-20 22:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 124+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-08-20 21:46 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 22:41 ` Pietro Gagliardi [this message]
2008-08-20 22:54 ` [9fans] aquarela only uses /rc/bin/9fs? Benjamin Huntsman
2008-08-20 22:58 ` Steve Simon
2008-08-20 23:09 ` Benjamin Huntsman
2008-08-20 23:19 ` Steve Simon
2008-08-20 23:31 ` Benjamin Huntsman
2008-08-20 23:41 ` Benjamin Huntsman
2008-08-21 15:39 ` Benjamin Huntsman
2008-08-20 23:15 ` [9fans] Using the Acme Editor Geoffrey Avila
2008-08-21 7:42 ` Uriel
2008-08-21 10:58 ` erik quanstrom
2008-08-21 13:25 ` john
2008-08-21 13:31 ` David Leimbach
2008-08-21 16:59 ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-21 17:14 ` ron minnich
2008-08-21 10:36 ` erik quanstrom
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-08-24 17:13 Eris Discordia
2008-08-25 3:57 ` Michaelian Ennis
2008-08-24 16:52 Eris Discordia
2008-08-24 8:20 erik quanstrom
2008-08-21 17:36 Eris Discordia
2008-08-21 20:39 ` ron minnich
2008-08-21 22:11 ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-22 2:58 ` Federico G. Benavento
2008-08-22 6:13 ` Andrew Simmons
2008-08-22 9:41 ` hiro
2008-08-21 17:20 Eris Discordia
2008-08-21 16:39 Eris Discordia
2008-08-21 17:11 ` ron minnich
2008-08-21 18:29 ` hiro
2008-08-20 23:49 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 13:01 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 13:22 ` Sander van Dijk
2008-08-20 12:56 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 18:08 ` sqweek
2008-08-20 18:58 ` erik quanstrom
2008-08-20 19:47 ` sqweek
2008-08-20 12:36 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 9:44 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 9:34 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 11:56 ` Robert William Fuller
2008-08-20 12:25 ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 9:03 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 8:33 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 8:29 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 8:04 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 1:39 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 2:08 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-08-20 2:13 ` Iruata Souza
2008-08-20 8:08 ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 5:02 ` sqweek
2008-08-20 9:15 ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 9:44 ` Sander van Dijk
2008-08-20 9:53 ` sqweek
2008-08-20 10:12 ` matt
2008-08-20 12:27 ` Bruce Ellis
2008-08-20 16:23 ` Iruata Souza
2008-08-20 8:10 ` Steve Simon
2008-08-20 0:30 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 3:34 ` geoff
2008-08-20 3:43 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-08-20 3:48 ` Bruce Ellis
2008-08-20 8:42 ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 0:10 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 2:29 ` a
2008-08-20 8:01 ` Steve Simon
2008-08-19 23:51 Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 0:30 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-08-20 1:31 ` Iruata Souza
2008-08-20 1:43 ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 2:00 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-08-20 7:03 ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 7:36 ` bb
2008-08-21 0:03 ` Dan Cross
2008-08-24 7:27 ` John Waters
2008-08-24 18:14 ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-25 5:43 ` John Waters
2008-08-19 22:00 Eris Discordia
2008-08-19 22:12 ` andrey mirtchovski
2008-08-19 23:14 ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 3:12 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2008-08-20 3:17 ` andrey mirtchovski
2008-08-20 8:31 ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-19 22:14 ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2008-08-19 22:26 ` Steve Simon
2008-08-19 23:27 ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-19 23:36 ` Jonathan Cast
2008-08-20 0:42 ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 2:08 ` a
2008-08-20 8:06 ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 3:26 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2008-08-20 3:31 ` Bruce Ellis
2008-08-20 8:41 ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-19 22:25 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-08-19 22:31 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-08-19 22:46 ` Federico G. Benavento
2008-08-20 0:31 ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-19 23:03 ` Benjamin Huntsman
2008-08-20 0:34 ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 0:58 ` Benjamin Huntsman
2008-08-19 22:34 ` erik quanstrom
2008-08-20 3:11 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2008-08-19 15:52 Wendell xe
2008-08-19 16:01 ` ron minnich
2008-08-19 16:11 ` erik quanstrom
2008-08-19 21:23 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2008-08-19 16:31 ` Robert Raschke
2008-08-19 21:00 ` Steve Simon
2008-08-19 17:50 ` Ramon de Vera
2008-08-19 17:58 ` Russ Cox
2008-10-22 12:37 ` Rudolf Sykora
2008-10-23 18:26 ` Rudolf Sykora
2008-10-23 20:17 ` yy
2008-10-24 17:51 ` Russ Cox
2008-10-24 18:17 ` Rudolf Sykora
2009-04-05 16:19 ` Rudolf Sykora
2008-08-19 20:22 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-08-19 21:24 ` Iruata Souza
2008-08-20 0:28 ` David Leimbach
2008-08-20 3:54 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-08-20 3:56 ` Bruce Ellis
2008-08-20 8:48 ` Eris Discordia
2008-08-20 9:21 ` matt
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