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From: Boyd Roberts <boyd@strakt.com>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] RDMA: DMA over TCP/IP at IETF
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 11:57:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3C15E692.18FA79CB@strakt.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3C15925F.73746F2A@null.net>

"Douglas A. Gwyn" wrote:
> many times, e.g. on some variants of Unix
> there were hacks so that a user-mode buffer
> that an application arranged to be page-
> aligned would be directly mapped onto the
> kernel address space so DMA (for example)
> would directly get/put the data where the
> application wanted it.  It would of course
> be much better if this didn't have to be
> done as a hack.

Some versions for the VAX mapped the UNIBUS address space
smack on top on the clists so if you had tty h/w that could
DMA (the DZ-11? or did you need KMC's for that?) you wouldn't
have to map the UNIBUS for each DMA.  This was a grody hack,
but the alternatives were just too slow, particularily if
you wanted to support 128 students on a '780.

Mapping it into user mode is a real can of worms;  not only is
it highly unportable it really messes up the memory management
because pages have to be locked.  Locking is a nightmare;  don't
lock and you lose, have too many locks and horrible bugs appear
either immediately [bad] or months/years later [worse].


  reply	other threads:[~2001-12-11 10:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-12-11 13:17 George Michaelson
2001-12-11 10:08 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2001-12-11 10:57   ` Boyd Roberts [this message]
2001-12-12  9:47     ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2001-12-12 11:11       ` Boyd Roberts
2001-12-12 13:46 rob pike
2001-12-12 17:30 ` Boyd Roberts

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