[9fans] ideal plan9 laptop

[9fans] ideal plan9 laptop

[Ronald G Minnich]

my old 570 is finally dying, and I want to get an Ideal Plan9 Laptop.

I don't like the little "keyboard eraser" pointing device anymore. Andrey
recommends the glidepad. I'd also like something with very generic
hardware, no high-end graphics that I can't get docs for.

Any recommendations?

ron

Re: [9fans] ideal plan9 laptop

[Boyd Roberts]

Ronald G Minnich wrote:
> Any recommendations?

I think Sony VAIOs are great:

    - small, fast, light, thin, 5620 style key action, touch pad

However, make sure that it has a supported Ethernet interface
and a supported graphics 'card'.  This can be tricky.

I have two.  Russ and I worked out how to do a USB floppy install,
but one doesn't have a supported Ethernet card and the other doesn't
have a (fully) supported graphics card.

The default disk partition seems to be half for c: and the other
half is unused -- ideal for Plan 9 [no messy partition/reinstallation
games].

Re: [9fans] ideal plan9 laptop

[Boyd Roberts]

Boyd Roberts wrote:
>     - small, fast, light, thin, 5620 style key action, touch pad

Serial mouse support too.  I have the base level logitech 3 button.

[9fans] Re: ideal plan9 laptop

[Jim Choate]

On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Boyd Roberts wrote:

> Ronald G Minnich wrote:
> > Any recommendations?
>
> I think Sony VAIOs are great:

Sony products should be avoided until they change their tune toward Aibo
hackers...


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Re: [9fans] Re: ideal plan9 laptop

[Thomas Bushnell, BSG]

ravage@einstein.ssz.com (Jim Choate) writes:

> Sony products should be avoided until they change their tune toward Aibo
> hackers...

Say more--I don't know what the issue is to which you refer, but I'm
interested.

Re: [9fans] Re: ideal plan9 laptop

[Jim Choate]

On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:

> ravage@einstein.ssz.com (Jim Choate) writes:
>
> > Sony products should be avoided until they change their tune toward Aibo
> > hackers...
>
> Say more--I don't know what the issue is to which you refer, but I'm
> interested.

Google Aibo, it's current news.


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Re: [9fans] Re: ideal plan9 laptop

[Thomas Bushnell, BSG]

ravage@einstein.ssz.com (Jim Choate) writes:

> On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
>
> > ravage@einstein.ssz.com (Jim Choate) writes:
> >
> > > Sony products should be avoided until they change their tune toward Aibo
> > > hackers...
> >
> > Say more--I don't know what the issue is to which you refer, but I'm
> > interested.
>
> Google Aibo, it's current news.

I tried, but it doesn't get me far.  The first gajillion pages are all
Sony or resellers, and wouldn't say much anyway.  I went to the
www.aibosite.com page (which bills itself as for Aibo hackers), but I
can't find any info there...

Re: [9fans] Re: ideal plan9 laptop

[Boyd Roberts]

> Sony products should be avoided ...

Hmm, I hope this is just an id string thing, but it doesn't
find my on board:

    i8255x PCI 10/100Base-T
    PCI Bus 0 ctrl 11 func 0
    IRQ 9
    Mem FECFF000-FECFFFFF
        FCCO-FCFF
        FED0000-FEDFFFFF

Re: [9fans] ideal plan9 laptop

[andrey mirtchovski]

> I don't like the little "keyboard eraser" pointing device anymore.

in the more unfashionable northern corners of canada they call it
'the nipple'..  probably trying to pass it as an intuitive interface.

which it isn't..

Re: [9fans] ideal plan9 laptop

[Ronald G Minnich]

On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, andrey mirtchovski wrote:

> in the more unfashionable northern corners of canada they call it
> 'the nipple'..  probably trying to pass it as an intuitive interface.

yes but I didn't want to use that term in polite company.

Those darn Canadians.

ron

Re: [9fans] ideal plan9 laptop

[paurea]

andrey mirtchovski writes:
 > in the more unfashionable northern corners of canada they call it
 > 'the nipple'..  probably trying to pass it as an intuitive interface.
 >
 > which it isn't..

Here they call it the clitoris... don't know if that is intuitive or not... :-)
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Re: [9fans] ideal plan9 laptop

[Thomas Bushnell, BSG]

paurea@gsyc.escet.urjc.es writes:

> andrey mirtchovski writes:
>  > in the more unfashionable northern corners of canada they call it
>  > 'the nipple'..  probably trying to pass it as an intuitive interface.
>  >
>  > which it isn't..
>
> Here they call it the clitoris... don't know if that is intuitive or
> not... :-)

Sure explains why I prefer touchpads.

Re: [9fans] ideal plan9 laptop

[Russ Cox]

As far as graphics goes, you probably want to find
a laptop based on the Savage or SuperSavage line of
chips.  You'll need some patches to aux/vga, but that's
the most recent common chip that we handle well.

The IBM Thinkpad T21 and T23 are known to work, as
is the Toshiba Portege 3440CT, but they all have keyboard
erasers.

As much as I dislike the keyboard eraser (I always use
an external mouse if I have the room), at least on the
later Thinkpads you do get three buttons, which makes acme
much more pleasant when there's no room for an external
mouse.

Russ