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From: Boyd Roberts <boyd@strakt.com>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] text editor
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 13:15:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3CC936E2.B011A19D@strakt.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020426102202.6F2FC1998C@mail.cse.psu.edu>

nigel@9fs.org wrote:
> In my ignorant youth, I once used em(1), so called Ed for Mortals.  I
> can't now remember what the differences were.  Perhaps it printed
> 'huh?'  rather than '?'  to be more 'helpful'.

I don't think it printed 'huh?'.  I used it too but can't remember
the differences either.  I have some dim memory of it printing terse
error messages rather than '?'.

> Anyhow, I only had to transpose 'e' to 'r' once when invoking it
> (easily done, even on boyd's keyboard) to decide never to use it again.

Another point in ed's favour is that I'm yet to see 'e' and 'd' not
where they 'should' be.  'm' however is next to 'l' on azerty.

Good thing Plan 9 has ed 'cos sam -d is just a bit too 'special'; slightly
reminiscent of teco, except sam's 'dot' is some arbitrary size.  As well
as the fact that the 'a' and '-' keytops can be in 'weird' places too:

    azerty:

        'a' = 'q'
        '-' = unshifted 6

    swedish qwerty:

        '-' = '/'

So you have to ignore the keytops and think 'qwerty'.


  reply	other threads:[~2002-04-26 11:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-04-26 10:22 nigel
2002-04-26 11:15 ` Boyd Roberts [this message]
2002-04-26 11:25   ` Boyd Roberts
2002-04-26 16:06   ` Ronald G Minnich
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-04-29  9:36 Andrew Simmons
2002-04-26 17:31 Russ Cox
2002-04-26 14:52 anothy
2002-04-26 16:59 ` peter huang
2002-04-26 14:10 Russ Cox
2002-04-26 10:27 ` Sam Hopkins
2002-04-29  9:40 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2002-04-26 13:40 forsyth
2002-04-26 13:27 presotto
2002-04-26 12:46 bwc
2002-04-26 16:33 ` mcguire
2002-04-30  1:54   ` chad
2002-04-26 12:40 nigel
2002-04-26 11:41 forsyth
2002-04-26 11:39 rog
2002-04-26 11:45 ` Boyd Roberts
2002-04-26 10:45 nigel
2002-04-26 11:04 ` Alexander Viro
2002-04-26 10:11 rog
2002-04-26 23:30 ` Micah Stetson
2002-04-26  9:49 nigel
2002-04-26 10:21 ` Alexander Viro
2002-04-26 11:38   ` Michael Grunditz
2002-04-26 20:35   ` Dan Cross
2002-04-29  9:40     ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2002-04-29  9:36 ` Andrew Stitt
2002-04-29 15:58   ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2002-04-26  8:47 Andrew Stitt

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