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From: Agnelo de la Crotche <agnelo.geo@yahoo.com>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] What a poor VGA support !
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 09:14:07 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D0A421D.7EB2ABB7@yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200206141637.g5EGb4JZ011660@orthanc.ab.ca>

Lyndon Nerenberg wrote:

> >>>>> "Agnelo" == Agnelo de la Crotche <agnelo.geo@yahoo.com> writes:
>
> Sorry folks, but I'm in a particularly pedantic mood this morning ...
>
> > 6 DOSez : MS-DOS, PC DOS, Open DOS, DR DOS, PTS DOS, FreeDOS
>
> None of these have VGA support. They use the BIOS to write to the
> screen as if it was a 24x80 tty.
>

Whatever does the support ,  there are plenty of applications, web
browsers, disk utilities,
graphic shells running  with 16 colors and a reasonnable resolution,
while Plan9
produces only garbage with unsupported/half supported video adapters.


>
> > 6 Windozes : 95, 98 , ME, NT, 2K, XP
>
> Make that two Windows: 95 and NT. The others are just different
> releases of 95/NT.
>

That's true and not true, but  pretty irrelevant here.
If you  insist (but you do not) I can add other OS I've tested but not
installed ,
like Oberon (http://www.oberon.ethz.ch/native/) or MenuetOS
(http://www.menuetos.org/),
providing a GUI which has not broken any monitor yet..


>
> > 3 BSD : FreeBSD, Open BSD, Net BSD
> > 2 Linux : Debian, Suse
> > 2 Unix : SCO, Solaris
>
> As with DOS, none of these operating systems treats the VGA
> device as anything more than a cursor-addressable tty device.
> All the VGA magic is handled by a user-space application: the X
> server.
>

>
> --lyndon

That's true. But at least you can install them and configure the X
server
whenever you like (even if some newest Linux distributions like to
play Windoze and identify everything for you, including video adapter,
but usually they do it well).

At whatever level the VGA magic occures,  there are only two or
three user issues :
- stuff on screen (all OS I've mentionned)
- garbage (Plan9 - speaking for me )
- broken monitor
Do you mind taking these facts into consideration ?



agnelo


  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-06-17  9:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-06-13 14:21 presotto
2002-06-14 11:08 ` Agnelo de la Crotche
2002-06-14 14:26   ` Agnelo de la Crotche
2002-06-14 16:37   ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2002-06-14 20:16     ` Jason Gurtz
2002-06-15  0:27       ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2002-06-17  9:14         ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2002-06-16 22:41     ` Digby Tarvin
2002-06-19  8:45       ` Agnelo de la Crotche
2002-06-17  9:14     ` Agnelo de la Crotche [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-06-14 15:51 Russ Cox
2002-06-14 14:42 andrey mirtchovski
2002-06-14  9:44 Fco.J.Ballesteros
2002-06-14 13:50 ` Agnelo de la Crotche
2002-06-13 14:47 Russ Cox
2002-06-13 13:16 forsyth
2002-06-13 16:45 ` plan9
2002-06-13  9:29 Agnelo de la Crotche
2002-06-13 14:19 ` Ronald G Minnich
2002-06-13 17:46   ` Dan Cross
2002-06-14  8:45   ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2002-06-14 14:41     ` Ronald G Minnich
2002-06-14  8:45   ` Agnelo de la Crotche

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