From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <3ED95B04.2070707@ameritech.net> From: northern snowfall User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:0.9.4.1) Gecko/20020518 Netscape6/6.2.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] compare-by-hash References: <4624842fa54a1aa9e4b1731a4779b82d@plan9.bell-labs.com> <3ED953A8.2020806@ameritech.net> <20030601002801.GA94089@mero.morphisms.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 20:46:44 -0500 Topicbox-Message-UUID: c068a7e2-eacb-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 > > >I'm not sure I see why: are you equally paranoid that the >bits in core will be flipped by a passing alpha particle? > I find that to be an odd comparison. Being aware of what variables are present in your environment and how they can possibly affect your work is imperative. I find it hard to see that as paranoia. I simply did not know the facts or the statistics. That's why I ask questions ;). >I have to confess I don't see why people are so afraid of >randomization. > Who said I was afraid of randomization? I just want to know the facts so that I am aware of the possibilities I must face when trusting a given environment. >For something like venti it is worth working >out the numbers and probably worth detecting collisions, but >the chances of silently losing/corrupting data due to disk >firmware or driver bugs, for instance, seems much worse. > That may be true, but, how can I know that without any facts? If you admit that venti is worth working out the numbers, why even make this rant? Don >