From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <3EEF85FA.2070903@ameritech.net> From: northern snowfall User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:0.9.4.1) Gecko/20020518 Netscape6/6.2.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] The new ridiculous license References: <200306171604.h5HG4qCU024345@cvs.openbsd.org> <3EEF7C9F.5000607@ameritech.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 16:19:54 -0500 Topicbox-Message-UUID: cdf82a90-eacb-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 > When *YOU* make secure products that aren't easily evaded with five > or six extra bytes of machine code and *YOU* come up with theory that > doesn't just obfuscate attack design then *YOU* can actually get cocky. > Wobble wobble GOBBLES gotcha dox. And on the flip side, Berkeley > loves its AC1DB1TCH3Z. Maybe you should, too. Err, sorry for the OT-RANT. I get very bitchy between the time I've just woken up and the time I have my first cranberry juice of the day. However, the facts behind OpenBSD security still stand, and thus, do my opinions. UNIX security was one of the reasons I went out on my own and got involved in OS research (thanks tunes.org). Thankfully, Plan 9 was there. Enough said. Don http://www.7f.no-ip.com/~north_