From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <3F0DC049.7030300@place.org> From: Stephen Wynne User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? References: <5b68877f993232fb23394caf30309e12@plan9.bell-labs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 12:36:41 -0700 Topicbox-Message-UUID: f3c658f0-eacb-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 David Presotto wrote: > It's amazing how awkward win32 makes all of the same. Every > process control call turns into a handful of calls, each with > a dozen params. Yes, I'm noticing! On a related note, since I've been looking at how to solve the probelm with console hacking: Lately I've been wanting pseudo terminals because my rshd.exe gives me stdout in line buffered mode, causing un-line-terminated program prompts to only be output after the program exits (if at all). I haven't tried to run anything that reads or writes directly to the console yet, but I trust those kinds of programs are common enough. Where is the joy in computing? Win32 is making me wonder.