From: Martin Harriss <martin@Princeton.EDU>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] g++
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 12:49:18 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3F649C0E.6090405@Princeton.EDU> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <81132473206F3A46A72BD6116E1A06AE479C66@black.aprote.com>
I've always liked Modula-3. You do have to write code in a somewhat
idiomatic fashion to get the full benefit of the OO capabilities, but
overall it's quite a simple langueage (passes the "50-page rule.) And
it has generics.
Shame it never cuaght on.
Martin
Tiit Lankots wrote:
>>>Looking back at your previous message, perhaps it is the
>>>"scope rules and silent actions associated with inheritance", in
>>>which case are there any "Object Oriented" languages that you think
>>>are OK?
>>
>>I'm not Charles, but I also answer.
>>
>>Have you seen Oberon-2? It is OO done well.
>>
>>Brantley Coile
>>
>>
>
>
> Oberon-2 pushes complexity out of the language and into the libraries, not
> unlike C. The part I miss most in it is some form of generics. Although I must
> agree that its O-O is rather well-designed, indeed.
>
> There appears to be some nasty law of physics at work here: the simple and
> elegant O-O languages are easy to use right, but at the same time lack the
> single biggest trump of O-O -- generics; while the languages that contain
> generics are cumbersome and ugly. Go figure.
>
> Tiit Lankots
>
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2003-09-14 13:05 Tiit Lankots
2003-09-14 16:13 ` rob pike, esq.
2003-09-14 17:02 ` Scott Schwartz
2003-09-14 20:30 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-14 20:38 ` David Presotto
2003-09-14 19:57 ` FODEMESI Gergely
2003-09-14 20:27 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-14 21:58 ` Scott Schwartz
2003-09-14 22:06 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-15 15:41 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-14 16:49 ` Martin Harriss [this message]
2003-09-14 17:13 ` Scott Schwartz
2003-09-14 20:29 ` boyd, rounin
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2003-09-18 4:14 YAMANASHI Takeshi
2003-09-16 15:43 Richard C Bilson
2003-09-16 15:51 ` andrey mirtchovski
2003-09-15 21:17 Andrew Simmons
2003-09-16 15:16 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-16 15:19 ` paurea
2003-09-15 18:11 Tiit Lankots
2003-09-15 19:31 ` ron minnich
2003-09-15 21:10 ` Geoff Collyer
2003-09-16 5:41 ` Rob Pike
2003-09-15 10:16 ` okamoto
2003-09-16 8:50 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-17 11:37 ` a
2003-09-18 1:38 ` vdharani
2003-09-18 2:12 ` mirtchov
2003-09-18 5:10 ` vdharani
2003-09-15 15:03 Tiit Lankots
2003-09-15 15:29 ` ron minnich
2003-09-15 9:47 Laura Creighton
2003-09-14 23:58 Andrew Simmons
2003-09-15 0:13 ` rob pike, esq.
2003-09-15 8:58 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-14 22:13 Andrew Simmons
2003-09-15 14:54 ` splite
2003-09-15 22:33 ` Charles Forsyth
2003-09-15 23:14 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-14 22:06 Andrew Simmons
2003-09-14 22:09 ` rob pike, esq.
2003-09-12 8:16 YAMANASHI Takeshi
2003-09-12 5:32 YAMANASHI Takeshi
2003-09-12 7:25 ` okamoto
2003-09-12 9:29 ` northern snowfall
2003-09-12 8:33 ` okamoto
2003-09-12 2:50 okamoto
2003-09-12 2:52 ` Russ Cox
2003-09-12 2:58 ` okamoto
2003-09-12 4:28 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-12 4:41 ` okamoto
2003-09-12 12:55 ` Peter Bosch
2003-09-12 13:12 ` ron minnich
2003-09-12 13:32 ` Peter Bosch
2003-09-12 12:54 ` Peter Bosch
2003-09-12 13:35 ` Charles Forsyth
2003-09-12 13:50 ` ron minnich
2003-09-12 15:39 ` C H Forsyth
2003-09-12 17:12 ` Brantley Coile
2003-09-12 17:20 ` David Presotto
2003-09-12 18:09 ` ron minnich
2003-09-12 19:25 ` David Presotto
2003-09-12 19:44 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-12 17:24 ` mirtchov
2003-09-12 18:56 ` Scott Schwartz
2003-09-12 19:16 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-12 23:41 ` Russ Cox
2003-09-12 23:48 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-13 13:13 ` Sam
2003-09-15 8:27 ` Ralph Corderoy
2003-09-12 19:06 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-13 1:38 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-13 1:43 ` rob pike, esq.
2003-09-13 1:47 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-13 3:29 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-13 13:11 ` bs
2003-09-13 14:26 ` Brantley Coile
2003-09-14 9:17 ` Martin C.Atkins
2003-09-14 12:53 ` Brantley Coile
2003-09-15 7:33 ` Martin C.Atkins
2003-09-12 20:43 ` northern snowfall
2003-09-12 19:51 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-12 21:08 ` northern snowfall
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