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From: "J.R. Mauro" <jrm8005@gmail.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 10:36:45 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3aaafc130903310736y14125bc2j66d99b3eaaf7cdf@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7970D693-EB2A-4B25-8B27-8759A33E5A30@gmail.com>

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:01 AM, Eric Van Hensbergen <ericvh@gmail.com> wrote:
> The fact that rio and/or acme have a limited usage model with such a device
> and/or multitouch in general is a shame -- wouldn't it be nice to fix that.

This is a very good point. As much as I like rio, I can't help but be
aggravated by it sometimes, and it would be nice to have someone take
a fresh look at interacting with it and possibly solve some of the
shortcomings.

>  Drawterm (or ports to devices like the DS) are not ends in themselves but a
> means to exploring new interface models, ideas, and applications.  Likewise
> I hope the student reaches beyond simple drawterm support and implements an
> example iPhone environment/app within Plan 9 that matches it's interface
> model better than rio.
>
> As far as counting who would use this, that seems misdirected - GSoc is for
> the students to learn and get interested in plan 9, not for the community to
> get work done.
>
>         -eric
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 31, 2009, at 1:00 AM, Uriel <uriel99@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:57 AM, Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan
>> <vdharani@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> hi,
>>>
>>> sorry if i have missed any prior discussion, but i would like to
>>> mention that i am curious about this effort.
>>>
>>> to me, iphone (or similar device) seems to be an appropriate device
>>> that is small enough  to be a portable drawterm device (eventually it
>>> could become cheaper too). one can quickly connect it to a TV or a
>>> hybrid monitor and get a bigger display.
>>>
>>> i have tried this before in iphone with acme running in my mac:
>>>
>>> http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/12/modified-vnc-software-enables-remote-access-on-iphone/
>>
>> So, was acme usable with a touch screen as input? And does this mean
>> that VNC clients already provide the desired functionality?
>>
>>> so in my opinion, this is a good effort.
>>
>> I'm not sure how that conclusion follows from the rest of your email.
>> Can you clarify?
>>
>> Assuming that there are no overwhelming user interface issues (which
>> seems like a huge assumption to me), what actual useful functionality
>> would a drawterm port provide that vnc/ssh doesn't?
>>
>> I would remind people too that Google is going to *pay good money* for
>> this work, so I think it is reasonable to ask how worthy it is.
>>
>> Peace
>>
>> uriel
>>
>
>



  reply	other threads:[~2009-03-31 14:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-25 20:57 André Günther
2009-03-26  0:14 ` Federico G. Benavento
2009-03-26  0:24   ` Devon H. O'Dell
2009-03-26  0:39     ` Federico G. Benavento
2009-03-26  0:54       ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-03-26  1:02         ` andrey mirtchovski
2009-03-26  1:07           ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-03-26  1:11             ` andrey mirtchovski
2009-03-26  1:21               ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-03-26  1:29                 ` Nathaniel W Filardo
2009-03-26  2:03                   ` Pietro Gagliardi
2009-03-26  2:07                     ` Devon H. O'Dell
2009-03-26  2:42                       ` Anthony Sorace
2009-03-26  2:53                         ` Pietro Gagliardi
2009-03-26  3:09                           ` Noah Evans
2009-03-26  3:14                           ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-03-26  3:24                             ` Tom Lieber
2009-03-26  3:32                               ` Paul Lalonde
2009-03-26  3:31                             ` Jeff Sickel
2009-03-26  2:23                     ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-03-26  2:25                     ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-03-26  3:20                       ` Bakul Shah
2009-03-26  3:32                         ` Federico G. Benavento
2009-03-26 11:59                           ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-03-26 12:30                             ` Federico G. Benavento
2009-03-26 12:51                               ` Uriel
2009-03-26 13:28                                 ` erik quanstrom
2009-03-26 13:34                                   ` Devon H. O'Dell
2009-03-26 14:43                                   ` Brian L. Stuart
2009-03-26 16:18                                     ` Akshat Kumar
2009-03-26 16:24                                       ` erik quanstrom
2009-03-26 13:16                               ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-03-26 13:27                                 ` Devon H. O'Dell
2009-03-26 16:17                           ` Bakul Shah
2009-03-26  1:31                 ` andrey mirtchovski
2009-03-26  2:01                   ` Devon H. O'Dell
2009-03-26  4:36                     ` erik quanstrom
2009-03-26  2:20                   ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-03-26  8:33                 ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2009-03-26 18:04         ` J.R. Mauro
2009-03-26 18:22           ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-03-26 18:29             ` andrey mirtchovski
2009-03-26 18:39               ` Tom Lieber
2009-03-26 18:50                 ` andrey mirtchovski
2009-03-26 19:00                   ` Uriel
2009-03-26 19:14                   ` lucio
2009-03-26 19:27               ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-03-26 19:36                 ` andrey mirtchovski
2009-03-26 19:56                   ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-03-29  1:14                   ` Anant Narayanan
2009-03-30  2:51                     ` erik quanstrom
2009-03-30  3:02                       ` J.R. Mauro
2009-03-30  3:40                         ` ron minnich
2009-03-30  3:46                           ` J.R. Mauro
2009-03-30 14:08                             ` Anthony Sorace
2009-03-31  4:26                               ` Uriel
2009-03-31  4:36                                 ` Jack Johnson
2009-03-31  4:57                                   ` Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan
2009-03-31  6:00                                     ` Uriel
2009-03-31  6:22                                       ` Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan
2009-03-31  6:24                                       ` André Günther
2009-03-31  6:42                                         ` Federico G. Benavento
2009-03-31 20:51                                           ` David Leimbach
2009-03-31  7:33                                         ` yy
2009-03-31  7:36                                         ` Uriel
2009-03-31  9:14                                           ` Noah Evans
2009-03-31 12:01                                       ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-03-31 14:36                                         ` J.R. Mauro [this message]
2009-03-31 14:57                                           ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-03-31 15:02                                             ` J.R. Mauro
2009-03-31 15:09                                             ` Fco. J. Ballesteros
2009-03-31 11:52                                   ` Charles Forsyth
2009-03-26 18:39             ` J.R. Mauro
2009-03-26 19:35               ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-03-26 19:57                 ` Charles Forsyth
2009-03-26 19:54                   ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-03-26 21:22                 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2009-03-26 21:26                   ` Devon H. O'Dell
2009-03-28  1:21                   ` Uriel
2009-03-28  2:02                     ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-03-26  7:32 ` André Günther
2009-03-26 10:42   ` Pietro Gagliardi
2009-03-26 11:59     ` hiro

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