From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7970D693-EB2A-4B25-8B27-8759A33E5A30@gmail.com> References: <8126F5C4-87DF-4EB8-9470-FACCB5B1BEAF@gmx.de> <3aaafc130903292002n64910d8fnd960716a787d9b95@mail.gmail.com> <13426df10903292040p20c315abs202dec77398e14a3@mail.gmail.com> <3aaafc130903292046v36a30813q8cdf93e006ffa632@mail.gmail.com> <509071940903300708r6c477fb2he6ed869f0ba57650@mail.gmail.com> <5d375e920903302126u7d5fcdd0nc16ebf9745fad018@mail.gmail.com> <6e35c0620903302136y683a8de6kff4a72ae490c4ef9@mail.gmail.com> <5d375e920903302300v4c5c4da4g32ec1e4af0648390@mail.gmail.com> <7970D693-EB2A-4B25-8B27-8759A33E5A30@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 10:36:45 -0400 Message-ID: <3aaafc130903310736y14125bc2j66d99b3eaaf7cdf@mail.gmail.com> From: "J.R. Mauro" To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone Topicbox-Message-UUID: ce36033e-ead4-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:01 AM, Eric Van Hensbergen wro= te: > The fact that rio and/or acme have a limited usage model with such a devi= ce > and/or multitouch in general is a shame -- wouldn't it be nice to fix tha= t. This is a very good point. As much as I like rio, I can't help but be aggravated by it sometimes, and it would be nice to have someone take a fresh look at interacting with it and possibly solve some of the shortcomings. > =A0Drawterm (or ports to devices like the DS) are not ends in themselves = but a > means to exploring new interface models, ideas, and applications. =A0Like= wise > I hope the student reaches beyond simple drawterm support and implements = an > example iPhone environment/app within Plan 9 that matches it's interface > model better than rio. > > As far as counting who would use this, that seems misdirected - GSoc is f= or > the students to learn and get interested in plan 9, not for the community= to > get work done. > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 -eric > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 31, 2009, at 1:00 AM, Uriel wrote: > >> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:57 AM, Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan >> wrote: >>> >>> hi, >>> >>> sorry if i have missed any prior discussion, but i would like to >>> mention that i am curious about this effort. >>> >>> to me, iphone (or similar device) seems to be an appropriate device >>> that is small enough =A0to be a portable drawterm device (eventually it >>> could become cheaper too). one can quickly connect it to a TV or a >>> hybrid monitor and get a bigger display. >>> >>> i have tried this before in iphone with acme running in my mac: >>> >>> http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/12/modified-vnc-software-enables-remote= -access-on-iphone/ >> >> So, was acme usable with a touch screen as input? And does this mean >> that VNC clients already provide the desired functionality? >> >>> so in my opinion, this is a good effort. >> >> I'm not sure how that conclusion follows from the rest of your email. >> Can you clarify? >> >> Assuming that there are no overwhelming user interface issues (which >> seems like a huge assumption to me), what actual useful functionality >> would a drawterm port provide that vnc/ssh doesn't? >> >> I would remind people too that Google is going to *pay good money* for >> this work, so I think it is reasonable to ask how worthy it is. >> >> Peace >> >> uriel >> > >