Re: [9fans] An excerpt from Syllable's description

["J.R. Mauro" <jrm8005@gmail.com>]

On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:29 PM, pmarin<pacogeek@gmail.com> wrote:
> I wonder if is possible that underground operating systems like Haiku,
> Aros or Plan9 should share some kind of knowledge database (not only
> the source code) about drivers implementation and don't try to
> reinvent the wheel. Haiku seems to do a great job, for example their
> network drivers are taken from Freebsd, the sound drivers from OSS4,
> etc.

I have wondered this, too. I think it would be especially hard for
Plan 9 to benefit given the way it handles controlling devices.

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> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 6:09 PM, John Floren<slawmaster@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Why do we have to care about every self-righteous pronouncement from
>> every minor project out there? Why should we have to put everything
>> into a "Plan 9 context"?
>>
>> If you want to relate Plan 9 to Syllable, look at their forums--it
>> seems to have the same sort of problems as Plan 9. Lacking in drivers
>> (a quick look showed that they don't have PCMCIA, WLAN, or PPP
>> support), new users coming in expecting it to be like other operating
>> systems (I'm looking at you, Balwinder) or trolls calling it dead, and
>> in general an apparent lack of people writing programs for it.
>> Syllable looks to be POSIX-compliant (I think) which is probably how
>> they have Quake most of the other ported programs.
>>
>> John
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>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 2:13 AM, Balwinder S
>> Dheeman<bsd.SANSPAM@cto.homelinux.net> wrote:
>>> Computer scientists will tell you that their operating systems and tools
>>> are fine, because they like them to be complex. Companies will tell you
>>> that their machines or devices are fine, because they like to control
>>> them by hiding requisite device specifications and, or applications
>>> notes, even though you own them. Yet, some people remember a few
>>> machines from decades ago that were different. They got run over in the
>>> gold rush, but they proved that it is possible to build much more
>>> helpful machines. And if it was possible then, it is certainly possible
>>> now, because the hardware that computers are built from has become much
>>> more powerful. It's the software that is often not working in the
>>> interest of the owner. In the /Syllable/ project, we are using this
>>> power to help the owner instead of the scientists and the big companies.
>>>
>>> Please comment the above in a Plan 9 context.
>>> --
>>> Balwinder S "bdheeman" Dheeman        Registered Linux User: #229709
>>> Anu'z Linux@HOME (Unix Shoppe)        Machines: #168573, 170593, 259192
>>> Chandigarh, UT, 160062, India         Plan9, T2, Arch/Debian/FreeBSD/XP
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>>>
>>>
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>> --
>> "Object-oriented design is the roman numerals of computing" -- Rob Pike
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