From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <13426df10911261253y1e24eb46yd3ed988833a487bc@mail.gmail.com> <6157B254-D254-446F-8A37-133940AAD0F3@fastmail.fm> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:17:37 -0500 Message-ID: <3aaafc130911281117p2727a5ddv2c7f9756ae03dd9e@mail.gmail.com> From: Jorden Mauro To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [9fans] 9p resource sharing [was: Scanners] Topicbox-Message-UUID: a4bc8cfc-ead5-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: > > On 28 Nov 2009, at 2:28 pm, hiro wrote: > >> It's also very easy to run my toaster diskless. Does this say anything >> about it's elegance or simplicity? I don't remember what my toaster >> has to do with 9p, but nevermind. > > And somebody always mentions toasters! Or coffee machines... :D > > Actually, yes it does say a lot about a toaster's elegant simplicity: a > toaster only has parts to do the job intended. At a minimum a switched > heater, a sprung sliding bread carrier which also switches the heater, and a > thermally-releasing latch for the slider. I have seen a toaster without even > that much complexity; it had glass sides so you could see when your toast > was done how you like it. There is a toaster that burns a picture of a raincloud, sun, snowflake, etc. depending on the morning's forecast. There is also a coffee pot you can control via ethernet. The coffee pot runs windows and there is a virus that causes Coffee Denial of Service on it. > > Actually there is a link here. Things to share are increasingly bloated, and > applications strangely seem to need access to every feature of the shared > entity. 9p could perhaps help by presenting a device model with files for > different capabilities, or something like that, but it is only half a > solution. OTOH perhaps the need to access device features is not really > strange. Requiring a whole postscript interpreter on your printer could be > seen as just as strange, it was certainly very expensive to do a few years > ago. > >> >> On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Ethan Grammatikidis >> wrote: >>> >>> On 26 Nov 2009, at 8:53 pm, ron minnich wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 12:36 PM, erik quanstrom >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> it is pretty hard to run windows, osx or linux without >>>>> a hard drive. >>>> >>>> linux is actually quite easy and has been for about 12 years or more >>>> ... not sure of the others. >>> >>> It's certainly possible to run OS X diskless, and knowing Apple it'll >>> take >>> less setting up than Linux. ;) >>> >>> >>> >> > > >