* [9fans] how to undo in Rio shell window and Acme editor? @ 2018-05-09 6:32 刘宇宝 2018-05-09 7:04 ` Kurt H Maier ` (3 more replies) 0 siblings, 4 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: 刘宇宝 @ 2018-05-09 6:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans Hi all, Recently I started an adventure to 9front and found Plan 9 very interesting. I have thoroughly read the FQA and manual pages at 9front.org, and searched the web, but still don't know how to undo wrong typing in Rio shell window and Acme editor's tag line, I'm surprised and not so used to the facts that: * I can edit the output of a command in shell window, no way to undo * I can change or delete the tags for Acme editor and its column, no way to undo, although the tags for Acme window can't be edited. I miss much the *universal* shortcut Ctrl-z on Window and Command-z on macOS, does Rio and Acme have the equivalent? And one more question about Acme: how to quickly enter command? In VIM, I can enter <ESC>...comand<Enter>, in Acme I have to move cursor to command area and click, input command, press <ESC>, click middle mouse button on the highlighted command, is this the fastest way to input command in Acme? Thanks, Yubao Liu ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] how to undo in Rio shell window and Acme editor? 2018-05-09 6:32 [9fans] how to undo in Rio shell window and Acme editor? 刘宇宝 @ 2018-05-09 7:04 ` Kurt H Maier 2018-05-09 10:55 ` 刘宇宝 ` (2 subsequent siblings) 3 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Kurt H Maier @ 2018-05-09 7:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs On Wed, May 09, 2018 at 02:32:53PM +0800, 刘宇宝 wrote: > > I miss much the *universal* shortcut Ctrl-z on Window and Command-z on > macOS, does Rio and Acme have the equivalent? > Both the Ctrl key and the z key are fully supported on 9front Systems. To remove undesired characters from the screen, the Backspace key is also automatically provisioned, free of charge. khm ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] how to undo in Rio shell window and Acme editor? 2018-05-09 6:32 [9fans] how to undo in Rio shell window and Acme editor? 刘宇宝 2018-05-09 7:04 ` Kurt H Maier @ 2018-05-09 10:55 ` 刘宇宝 2018-05-09 11:42 ` hiro 2018-05-09 14:14 ` Steve Simon 2018-05-10 6:13 ` [9fans] What's the fastest way to input command in Acme? 刘宇宝 2018-05-22 9:04 ` [9fans] how to undo in Rio shell window and Acme editor? Ethan A. Gardener 3 siblings, 2 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: 刘宇宝 @ 2018-05-09 10:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans >> I miss much the *universal* shortcut Ctrl-z on Window and Command-z on >> macOS, does Rio and Acme have the equivalent? >> > > Both the Ctrl key and the z key are fully supported on 9front Systems. > To remove undesired characters from the screen, the Backspace key is > also automatically provisioned, free of charge. Wow, is this kind of humor like the picture at the bottom of http://fqa.9front.org/ ? I'm not a troll, I wrote several articles to introduce Plan 9 some days ago, I'm seriously asking :-D Maybe I already got the answer @_@ Thanks, Yubao Liu ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] how to undo in Rio shell window and Acme editor? 2018-05-09 10:55 ` 刘宇宝 @ 2018-05-09 11:42 ` hiro 2018-05-09 11:45 ` hiro 2018-05-09 14:14 ` Steve Simon 1 sibling, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: hiro @ 2018-05-09 11:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs in sam you can type u in the command window for undo. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] how to undo in Rio shell window and Acme editor? 2018-05-09 11:42 ` hiro @ 2018-05-09 11:45 ` hiro 2018-05-09 15:33 ` 刘宇宝 0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: hiro @ 2018-05-09 11:45 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs rio has no knowledge of the past, you cannot undo there, though i agree this can create problems for people coming from other platforms that lack the ability to edit former output and not just the prompt. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] how to undo in Rio shell window and Acme editor? 2018-05-09 11:45 ` hiro @ 2018-05-09 15:33 ` 刘宇宝 0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: 刘宇宝 @ 2018-05-09 15:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs I often messed the output of previous command by accident, either by typing or mouse chords to cut or paste, then I can't copy original text :-( ACME focuses the window under mouse cusor by default, I also often wrongly edit the tag line... Indeed need some time to get used to it. > On May 9, 2018, at 7:45 PM, hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> wrote: > > rio has no knowledge of the past, you cannot undo there, though i > agree this can create problems for people coming from other platforms > that lack the ability to edit former output and not just the prompt. > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] how to undo in Rio shell window and Acme editor? 2018-05-09 10:55 ` 刘宇宝 2018-05-09 11:42 ` hiro @ 2018-05-09 14:14 ` Steve Simon 2018-05-09 15:40 ` 刘宇宝 1 sibling, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: Steve Simon @ 2018-05-09 14:14 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs hi. i think it is humour of a kind. i cannot speak for acme but rio has no undo buffer, so what you ask for is not possible. you can save a windows content (including history). e.g. /dev/wsys/11/text /tmp (assuming the window you want is number 11, cat /dev/winid to get the current windows id) -Steve On 9 May 2018, at 11:55, 刘宇宝 <liuyubao@yingmi.cn> wrote: >>> I miss much the *universal* shortcut Ctrl-z on Window and Command-z on >>> macOS, does Rio and Acme have the equivalent? >>> >> >> Both the Ctrl key and the z key are fully supported on 9front Systems. >> To remove undesired characters from the screen, the Backspace key is >> also automatically provisioned, free of charge. > > Wow, is this kind of humor like the picture at the bottom of http://fqa.9front.org/ ? > > I'm not a troll, I wrote several articles to introduce Plan 9 some days ago, I'm seriously asking :-D > > Maybe I already got the answer @_@ > > Thanks, > Yubao Liu ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] how to undo in Rio shell window and Acme editor? 2018-05-09 14:14 ` Steve Simon @ 2018-05-09 15:40 ` 刘宇宝 2018-05-09 22:37 ` Chris McGee 2018-05-09 23:02 ` Raingloom 0 siblings, 2 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: 刘宇宝 @ 2018-05-09 15:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs Great thanks for your idea, file oriented design is very flexible! The prompt function may be used to automatically backup the output of previous command, a poor man's undo buffer :-D I tried to execute "rc" in Acme, seems Acme always execution command with /dev/null as stdin, I can't embed an interactive rc session into Acme and leverage the undo buffer of Acme window. > On May 9, 2018, at 10:14 PM, Steve Simon <steve@quintile.net> wrote: > > hi. > > i think it is humour of a kind. > > i cannot speak for acme but rio has no undo buffer, so what you ask for is not possible. > > you can save a windows content (including history). e.g. /dev/wsys/11/text /tmp (assuming the window you want is number 11, cat /dev/winid to get the current windows id) > > -Steve > > > On 9 May 2018, at 11:55, 刘宇宝 <liuyubao@yingmi.cn> wrote: > >>>> I miss much the *universal* shortcut Ctrl-z on Window and Command-z on >>>> macOS, does Rio and Acme have the equivalent? >>>> >>> >>> Both the Ctrl key and the z key are fully supported on 9front Systems. >>> To remove undesired characters from the screen, the Backspace key is >>> also automatically provisioned, free of charge. >> >> Wow, is this kind of humor like the picture at the bottom of http://fqa.9front.org/ ? >> >> I'm not a troll, I wrote several articles to introduce Plan 9 some days ago, I'm seriously asking :-D >> >> Maybe I already got the answer @_@ >> >> Thanks, >> Yubao Liu > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] how to undo in Rio shell window and Acme editor? 2018-05-09 15:40 ` 刘宇宝 @ 2018-05-09 22:37 ` Chris McGee 2018-05-10 5:57 ` 刘宇宝 2018-05-09 23:02 ` Raingloom 1 sibling, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: Chris McGee @ 2018-05-09 22:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs There’s a ‘win’ command you can executed in acme to get an interactive rc shell window. > On May 9, 2018, at 11:40 AM, 刘宇宝 <liuyubao@yingmi.cn> wrote: > > Great thanks for your idea, file oriented design is very flexible! The prompt function may be used to automatically backup the output of previous command, a poor man's undo buffer :-D > > I tried to execute "rc" in Acme, seems Acme always execution command with /dev/null as stdin, I can't embed an interactive rc session into Acme and leverage the undo buffer of Acme window. > >> On May 9, 2018, at 10:14 PM, Steve Simon <steve@quintile.net> wrote: >> >> hi. >> >> i think it is humour of a kind. >> >> i cannot speak for acme but rio has no undo buffer, so what you ask for is not possible. >> >> you can save a windows content (including history). e.g. /dev/wsys/11/text /tmp (assuming the window you want is number 11, cat /dev/winid to get the current windows id) >> >> -Steve >> >> >> On 9 May 2018, at 11:55, 刘宇宝 <liuyubao@yingmi.cn> wrote: >> >>>>> I miss much the *universal* shortcut Ctrl-z on Window and Command-z on >>>>> macOS, does Rio and Acme have the equivalent? >>>>> >>>> >>>> Both the Ctrl key and the z key are fully supported on 9front Systems. >>>> To remove undesired characters from the screen, the Backspace key is >>>> also automatically provisioned, free of charge. >>> >>> Wow, is this kind of humor like the picture at the bottom of http://fqa.9front.org/ ? >>> >>> I'm not a troll, I wrote several articles to introduce Plan 9 some days ago, I'm seriously asking :-D >>> >>> Maybe I already got the answer @_@ >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Yubao Liu >> >> > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] how to undo in Rio shell window and Acme editor? 2018-05-09 22:37 ` Chris McGee @ 2018-05-10 5:57 ` 刘宇宝 0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: 刘宇宝 @ 2018-05-10 5:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs Excellent! This indeed gives an rc shell window embed into Acme editor, and I can undo editing in it, right what I want! Thank you very much! > On May 10, 2018, at 6:37 AM, Chris McGee <newton688@gmail.com> wrote: > > There’s a ‘win’ command you can executed in acme to get an interactive rc shell window. > >> On May 9, 2018, at 11:40 AM, 刘宇宝 <liuyubao@yingmi.cn> wrote: >> >> Great thanks for your idea, file oriented design is very flexible! The prompt function may be used to automatically backup the output of previous command, a poor man's undo buffer :-D >> >> I tried to execute "rc" in Acme, seems Acme always execution command with /dev/null as stdin, I can't embed an interactive rc session into Acme and leverage the undo buffer of Acme window. >> >>> On May 9, 2018, at 10:14 PM, Steve Simon <steve@quintile.net> wrote: >>> >>> hi. >>> >>> i think it is humour of a kind. >>> >>> i cannot speak for acme but rio has no undo buffer, so what you ask for is not possible. >>> >>> you can save a windows content (including history). e.g. /dev/wsys/11/text /tmp (assuming the window you want is number 11, cat /dev/winid to get the current windows id) >>> >>> -Steve >>> >>> >>> On 9 May 2018, at 11:55, 刘宇宝 <liuyubao@yingmi.cn> wrote: >>> >>>>>> I miss much the *universal* shortcut Ctrl-z on Window and Command-z on >>>>>> macOS, does Rio and Acme have the equivalent? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Both the Ctrl key and the z key are fully supported on 9front Systems. >>>>> To remove undesired characters from the screen, the Backspace key is >>>>> also automatically provisioned, free of charge. >>>> >>>> Wow, is this kind of humor like the picture at the bottom of http://fqa.9front.org/ ? >>>> >>>> I'm not a troll, I wrote several articles to introduce Plan 9 some days ago, I'm seriously asking :-D >>>> >>>> Maybe I already got the answer @_@ >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Yubao Liu >>> >>> >> > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] how to undo in Rio shell window and Acme editor? 2018-05-09 15:40 ` 刘宇宝 2018-05-09 22:37 ` Chris McGee @ 2018-05-09 23:02 ` Raingloom 2018-05-10 6:05 ` 刘宇宝 1 sibling, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: Raingloom @ 2018-05-09 23:02 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs Even if you are not in a `win` window (eg. if you are in an +Error one) you can use Undo. Sometimes Acme doesn't actually put Undo in the tag line, but if you type it out yourself it will still work. Well, at least on p9p Acme, I'm not sure about Plan 9 Acme. ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On May 9, 2018 5:40 PM, 刘宇宝 <liuyubao@yingmi.cn> wrote: > Great thanks for your idea, file oriented design is very flexible! The prompt function may be used to automatically backup the output of previous command, a poor man's undo buffer :-D > > I tried to execute "rc" in Acme, seems Acme always execution command with /dev/null as stdin, I can't embed an interactive rc session into Acme and leverage the undo buffer of Acme window. > > > On May 9, 2018, at 10:14 PM, Steve Simon steve@quintile.net wrote: > > > > hi. > > > > i think it is humour of a kind. > > > > i cannot speak for acme but rio has no undo buffer, so what you ask for is not possible. > > > > you can save a windows content (including history). e.g. /dev/wsys/11/text /tmp (assuming the window you want is number 11, cat /dev/winid to get the current windows id) > > > > -Steve > > > > On 9 May 2018, at 11:55, 刘宇宝 liuyubao@yingmi.cn wrote: > > > > > > > I miss much the universal shortcut Ctrl-z on Window and Command-z on > > > > > > > > > > macOS, does Rio and Acme have the equivalent? > > > > > > > > Both the Ctrl key and the z key are fully supported on 9front Systems. > > > > > > > > To remove undesired characters from the screen, the Backspace key is > > > > > > > > also automatically provisioned, free of charge. > > > > > > Wow, is this kind of humor like the picture at the bottom of http://fqa.9front.org/ ? > > > > > > I'm not a troll, I wrote several articles to introduce Plan 9 some days ago, I'm seriously asking :-D > > > > > > Maybe I already got the answer @_@ > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Yubao Liu ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] how to undo in Rio shell window and Acme editor? 2018-05-09 23:02 ` Raingloom @ 2018-05-10 6:05 ` 刘宇宝 2018-05-10 12:18 ` cherry 0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: 刘宇宝 @ 2018-05-10 6:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Raingloom, Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs Yes, "win rc" embeds a rc shell window in Acme, I can undo in the shell window, that's perfect! But the edit in tag line can't be undo, I find the Undo command has no effect if it's on the top main tag line or the column tag line, it only works on window tag line and only undo editing in the text window. I tried p9p Acme on Mac OS X, seems the mouse button emulation with trackpad is broken, p9p Acme doesn't response to Shift + Secondary Click, this is probably my problem, won't play it now until I'm more familiar with 9front in Virtualbox. Thanks a lot! > On May 10, 2018, at 7:02 AM, Raingloom <raingloom@protonmail.com> wrote: > > Even if you are not in a `win` window (eg. if you are in an +Error one) you can use Undo. Sometimes Acme doesn't actually put Undo in the tag line, but if you type it out yourself it will still work. Well, at least on p9p Acme, I'm not sure about Plan 9 Acme. > > > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ > > On May 9, 2018 5:40 PM, 刘宇宝 <liuyubao@yingmi.cn> wrote: > >> Great thanks for your idea, file oriented design is very flexible! The prompt function may be used to automatically backup the output of previous command, a poor man's undo buffer :-D >> >> I tried to execute "rc" in Acme, seems Acme always execution command with /dev/null as stdin, I can't embed an interactive rc session into Acme and leverage the undo buffer of Acme window. >> >>> On May 9, 2018, at 10:14 PM, Steve Simon steve@quintile.net wrote: >>> >>> hi. >>> >>> i think it is humour of a kind. >>> >>> i cannot speak for acme but rio has no undo buffer, so what you ask for is not possible. >>> >>> you can save a windows content (including history). e.g. /dev/wsys/11/text /tmp (assuming the window you want is number 11, cat /dev/winid to get the current windows id) >>> >>> -Steve >>> >>> On 9 May 2018, at 11:55, 刘宇宝 liuyubao@yingmi.cn wrote: >>> >>>>>> I miss much the universal shortcut Ctrl-z on Window and Command-z on >>>>>> >>>>>> macOS, does Rio and Acme have the equivalent? >>>>> >>>>> Both the Ctrl key and the z key are fully supported on 9front Systems. >>>>> >>>>> To remove undesired characters from the screen, the Backspace key is >>>>> >>>>> also automatically provisioned, free of charge. >>>> >>>> Wow, is this kind of humor like the picture at the bottom of http://fqa.9front.org/ ? >>>> >>>> I'm not a troll, I wrote several articles to introduce Plan 9 some days ago, I'm seriously asking :-D >>>> >>>> Maybe I already got the answer @_@ >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Yubao Liu > > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] how to undo in Rio shell window and Acme editor? 2018-05-10 6:05 ` 刘宇宝 @ 2018-05-10 12:18 ` cherry 2018-05-14 3:05 ` 刘宇宝 0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: cherry @ 2018-05-10 12:18 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 390 bytes --] > > > I tried p9p Acme on Mac OS X, seems the mouse button emulation with > trackpad is broken, p9p Acme doesn't response to Shift + Secondary Click, > this is probably my problem, won't play it now until I'm more familiar with > 9front in Virtualbox. > Alt+Click does a middle click (button 2), Command+Click does a right click (button 3). Also, Command+Z does what's expected. [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 614 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] how to undo in Rio shell window and Acme editor? 2018-05-10 12:18 ` cherry @ 2018-05-14 3:05 ` 刘宇宝 0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: 刘宇宝 @ 2018-05-14 3:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs Thank you very much, these combinations do work well! A little supplement, Command-z works in acme but not 9term, anyway, that's fine, I can embed term in acme. > On May 10, 2018, at 8:18 PM, cherry <lunaria21@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I tried p9p Acme on Mac OS X, seems the mouse button emulation with trackpad is broken, p9p Acme doesn't response to Shift + Secondary Click, this is probably my problem, won't play it now until I'm more familiar with 9front in Virtualbox. > > Alt+Click does a middle click (button 2), Command+Click does a right click (button 3). Also, Command+Z does what's expected. > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* [9fans] What's the fastest way to input command in Acme? 2018-05-09 6:32 [9fans] how to undo in Rio shell window and Acme editor? 刘宇宝 2018-05-09 7:04 ` Kurt H Maier 2018-05-09 10:55 ` 刘宇宝 @ 2018-05-10 6:13 ` 刘宇宝 2018-05-10 7:08 ` Rudolf Sykora 2018-05-10 8:05 ` fgergo 2018-05-22 9:04 ` [9fans] how to undo in Rio shell window and Acme editor? Ethan A. Gardener 3 siblings, 2 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: 刘宇宝 @ 2018-05-10 6:13 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [[ I got perfect answers to my original questions about undo, the another questions is probably neglected, so I split another thread.]] In VIM, I can input <ESC>...comand<Enter>, in Acme I have to move cursor to command area and click, input command, press <ESC>, click middle mouse button on the highlighted command, is this the fastest way to input command in Acme? I'm not arguing Vim is better, I agree some operations are faster in Vim and some faster in Acme, I just want to know the most efficient way in Acme. Thanks in advance for your kindly help! ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] What's the fastest way to input command in Acme? 2018-05-10 6:13 ` [9fans] What's the fastest way to input command in Acme? 刘宇宝 @ 2018-05-10 7:08 ` Rudolf Sykora 2018-05-10 8:05 ` fgergo 1 sibling, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Rudolf Sykora @ 2018-05-10 7:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs > In VIM, I can input <ESC>...comand<Enter>, in Acme I have > to move cursor to command area and click, input command, press <ESC>, > click middle mouse button on the highlighted command, is this > the fastest way to input command in Acme? Basically, I think so. I'd just add that 1) command can actually appear anywhere (but then it may clutter the main text) 2) if the command is one word, then ESC is not necessary 3) you may keep several commands there, one kept highlighted for immediate use 4) in p9p the tag line can have several lines Ruda ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] What's the fastest way to input command in Acme? 2018-05-10 6:13 ` [9fans] What's the fastest way to input command in Acme? 刘宇宝 2018-05-10 7:08 ` Rudolf Sykora @ 2018-05-10 8:05 ` fgergo 2018-05-10 10:09 ` hiro 1 sibling, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: fgergo @ 2018-05-10 8:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs The tour of the acme editor should help answer a lot of your questions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP1xVpMPn8M On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 8:15 AM 刘宇宝 <liuyubao@yingmi.cn> wrote: > [[ I got perfect answers to my original questions about undo, the another questions is probably neglected, so I split another thread.]] > In VIM, I can input <ESC>...comand<Enter>, in Acme I have to move cursor to command area and click, input command, press <ESC>, click middle mouse button on the highlighted command, is this the fastest way to input command in Acme? > I'm not arguing Vim is better, I agree some operations are faster in Vim and some faster in Acme, I just want to know the most efficient way in Acme. > Thanks in advance for your kindly help! ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] What's the fastest way to input command in Acme? 2018-05-10 8:05 ` fgergo @ 2018-05-10 10:09 ` hiro 2018-05-10 10:17 ` Mark van Atten 0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: hiro @ 2018-05-10 10:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs many people keep an additional text file open as scratchspace and command buffer for other winows. this is nicer than the multiline p9p tagline or other solutions like scrolling sideways in the plan 9 acme. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] What's the fastest way to input command in Acme? 2018-05-10 10:09 ` hiro @ 2018-05-10 10:17 ` Mark van Atten 0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Mark van Atten @ 2018-05-10 10:17 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 12:09 PM, hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> wrote: > many people keep an additional text file open as scratchspace and > command buffer for other winows. > this is nicer than the multiline p9p tagline or other solutions like > scrolling sideways in the plan 9 acme. Agreed. And obviously such a scratch space can itself be saved, which is useful for the next editing session of the files in question. Mark. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] how to undo in Rio shell window and Acme editor? 2018-05-09 6:32 [9fans] how to undo in Rio shell window and Acme editor? 刘宇宝 ` (2 preceding siblings ...) 2018-05-10 6:13 ` [9fans] What's the fastest way to input command in Acme? 刘宇宝 @ 2018-05-22 9:04 ` Ethan A. Gardener 3 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Ethan A. Gardener @ 2018-05-22 9:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans As a small extra hint if you ever need to work outside Acme, any delete of selected text is effectively a cut. You can paste it back in. I used to use that like undo all the time. On Wed, May 9, 2018, at 7:32 AM, 刘宇宝 wrote: > Hi all, > > Recently I started an adventure to 9front and found Plan 9 very > interesting. I have thoroughly read the FQA and manual pages at > 9front.org, and searched the web, but still don't know how to undo wrong > typing in Rio shell window and Acme editor's tag line, I'm surprised > and not so used to the facts that: > > * I can edit the output of a command in shell window, no way to undo > > * I can change or delete the tags for Acme editor and its column, no way > to undo, although the tags for Acme window can't be edited. > > I miss much the *universal* shortcut Ctrl-z on Window and Command-z on > macOS, does Rio and Acme have the equivalent? > > > And one more question about Acme: how to quickly enter command? In VIM, > I can enter <ESC>...comand<Enter>, in Acme I have to move cursor to > command area and click, input command, press <ESC>, click middle mouse > button on the highlighted command, is this the fastest way to input > command in Acme? > > > Thanks, > > Yubao Liu > > -- The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne. -- Chaucer ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
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