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Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 15:53:48 -0800
From: David Leimbach <leimy2k@gmail.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] fuse bashing
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On 1/23/06, Dan Cross <cross@math.psu.edu> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 01:33:35PM -0700, Ronald G Minnich wrote:
> > The big complaints I know of so far on 9P are
> >
> > - there is no posix file locking (sorry, but people want it) although
> > the 'only allow one open at a time' is a pretty damned good substitute
> >
> > - no ACLs (I'm convinced that the stat and wstat could be trivially
> >       extended to support this --- 9p2000.acl)
> >
> > - doesn't fit linux vfs semantics too well (just a joke, son, but true
> >    too -- sometimes you have to fit a good thing onto a broken thing)
> >
> > That's about all I've hit so far. I spent about 5 years hacking on nfs,
> > and I have to say 9p is a way better protocol.
>
> I'm sure some crackhead somewhere has added ``doesn't do readlink or
> symlink'' to that list.



They might if they're on a unix system with no private namespaces.

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<br><br><div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 1/23/06, <b class=3D"gmail_send=
ername">Dan Cross</b> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cross@math.psu.edu">cross@math.=
psu.edu</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"bor=
der-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-=
left: 1ex;">
On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 01:33:35PM -0700, Ronald G Minnich wrote:<br>&gt; T=
he big complaints I know of so far on 9P are<br>&gt;<br>&gt; - there is no =
posix file locking (sorry, but people want it) although<br>&gt; the 'only a=
llow one open at a time' is a pretty damned good substitute
<br>&gt;<br>&gt; - no ACLs (I'm convinced that the stat and wstat could be =
trivially<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; extended to support t=
his --- 9p2000.acl)<br>&gt;<br>&gt; - doesn't fit linux vfs semantics too w=
ell (just a joke, son, but true
<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;too -- sometimes you have to fit a good thi=
ng onto a broken thing)<br>&gt;<br>&gt; That's about all I've hit so far. I=
 spent about 5 years hacking on nfs,<br>&gt; and I have to say 9p is a way =
better protocol.
<br><br>I'm sure some crackhead somewhere has added ``doesn't do readlink o=
r<br>symlink'' to that list.</blockquote><div><br><br>They might if they're=
 on a unix system with no private namespaces.<br>&nbsp;</div><br><br></div>=
<br>

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