From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <3e1162e60604032331h476655amd4775d0e30b597a1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 23:31:34 -0700 From: "David Leimbach" To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] new compilers In-Reply-To: <6e35c0620604032028s464d22b4m9989d88ba4d8a1a1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <6e35c0620604031341k3effda87i762a2cc511bdbb82@mail.gmail.com> <6104d1669942e762ba6bd4ab80bfca37@cat-v.org> <6e35c0620604032028s464d22b4m9989d88ba4d8a1a1@mail.gmail.com> Topicbox-Message-UUID: 2e679190-ead1-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On 4/3/06, Jack Johnson wrote: > On 4/3/06, uriel@cat-v.org wrote: > > I would rather ask: > > So, are you saying you have no opinion, or would you rather not share > it? You might as well have asked what's wrong with Ford that BMW > didn't fix? > > I have no opinion--no experience with it--which is why I'm asking. > I'm not out to berate someone else's choice. And, not to belittle > Limbo, but one motivation for creating Objective-C was to avoid > Smalltalk's VM. So, if you really believe Limbo in some way fixed C, > are you also implying that avoiding the VM in Objective-C was a poor > design choice? > > -Jack > No VM but a pretty interesting runtime, with lots of ways to pass data around of any type but then find out if it's supported at runtime. I think Objective-C opened a lot of GUI programming possibilities that might have been trickier to express in other languages. There is no one tool that does the job all the time that I've found. All the world is not a nail. Dave