From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <3e1162e60607070731i2c03961fs54d4f5b01cc8104e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 07:31:14 -0700 From: "David Leimbach" To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] smacme In-Reply-To: <44AE6C15.7090400@lanl.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <44AE6C15.7090400@lanl.gov> Topicbox-Message-UUID: 750ceea6-ead1-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 Well I wasn't kidding about it when I said that's pretty neat. I did go in and look at the changes you made. I *WAS* kidding about making ^K and ^Y access snarf. I don't know how many times I've been frustrated using acme when I only needed to go up or down one line and had to reach for the mouse to do so. I do, however, like that acme scrolls with the arrow keys so this change of yours seems no worse to me than the day I realized ^U deleted everything behind the insertion point on the line, or that ESC selected my most recently typed text. Different people like different shortcuts and being able to customize one's editor is a pretty cool thing. (probably why I've always preferred emacs to vi in unix-land). One thing smacme did do was make me more curious about the way the acme filesystem (/mnt/acme stuff) works and for the first time I took a deeper look into how all that stuff behaves. So really it's not all that bad now is it? ;-) And your comment about people who don't write any code is probably mostly on. I did an experiment once, tried to add a feature to rio.. turns out if I had a better grasp of the the filesystem concept I didn't even need to write that code. I even documented the experience (on my mordor page). I just seem to have to write less significant code on Plan 9 for the simple little tasks I've wanted to achieve there. And one more thing, abaco-test is working swimmingly well considering it's age. I'm pretty darn impressed with that whole project. Dave On 7/7/06, Ronald G Minnich wrote: > The point of this little exercise is simple: lotsa people talk on this > list, but few write code. You don't like it, do something better and > cooler. But stop acting like this source code is engraved on two > tablets, five commandments per tablet. Write some code! > > Acme is very changeable, and nothing in this world is perfect, and it's > just one piece of the puzzle. Write some code! > > Rio is cool but not the be-all and end-all of everything. Write some code! > > ron >