From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <3e1162e60708201844m4d27ded9w853363739bc70a73@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 18:44:28 -0700 From: "David Leimbach" To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: everything is a directory In-Reply-To: <5d375e920708201825r44ea34f3m7500c4760db7024f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <46CA078F.8000403@gmail.com> <3e1162e60708201512q1f8e418esce6666e888bbabb1@mail.gmail.com> <3e1162e60708201814i7218d1bdxb2c04c845eeba0a9@mail.gmail.com> <5d375e920708201825r44ea34f3m7500c4760db7024f@mail.gmail.com> Topicbox-Message-UUID: ae8f2c60-ead2-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 Nope, already lost interest. On 8/20/07, Uriel wrote: > I guess robert is not the only one who has to do some reading of 9fans > archives... > > uriel > > On 8/21/07, David Leimbach wrote: > > Hmmm who's Dave L? I thought I was Dave L, but this isn't me Dave L. > > > > Super :-) > > > > On 8/20/07, dave.l@mac.com wrote: > > > > The answer to that seems obvious. A single bit could determine > > > > whether > > > > or not an attribute is transient or more permanent. > > > > > > So now our attributes have an attribute. > > > How kewl is that? > > > What about the state of the attribute's attribute: > > > do you copy that when you copy the attribute? > > > Is it optional or mandatory? > > > What's the default, Kenneth? > > > > > > As has been stated before, > > > it's then non-extensibility of the file system and file access > > > protocols that makes them wonderful. > > > > > > Poor analogy: > > > the file interface is like having a standardised range of nuts and > > > bolts: > > > you can build wonderful things with them simply; > > > attributes is like having loads of optional options on your nuts and > > > bolts > > > that you don't need and just get in the way. > > > > > > > > > > Finally, to argue that files are not objects seems silly. They ARE > > > > objects. > > > > > > "You're merely confounding the issue by playing a naive semantical > > > game":-). > > > Files are objects in the same sense that C-style arrays-of-characters > > > are string objects. > > > > > > > > > > Should I search the archives for boyd for my entertainment :-) > > > > > > You could do that. > > > Alternatively, you could keep on talking about file attributes > > spit>: > > > I can sense him spinning already. > > > If this nonsense goes on he'll probably start channelling through > > > some poor unfortunate random 9fan sometime soon. > > > > > > I don't know ... > > > 9fans is so full of noise these days ... > > > If it's not C++ it's eye candy and if it's not eye candy it's file > > > system abuse. > > > > > > It's the best OS in the known universe: > > > why can't people try to improve it instead of making it look like > > > all the other pukebucket OSes out there? > > > (Exeunt left mumbling and shaking head). > > > > > > DaveL. > > > > > > P.S. Did you mean "transient" ("lasting only for a short time")? > > > > > > > > >