Things like Clojure, or Scala become a bit more interesting when the VM is
extended to allow tail recursion to happen in a nice way.

On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Roman V Shaposhnik <rvs@sun.com> wrote:

> Clojure is definitely something that I would like to play
> with extensively. Looks very promising from the outset,
> so the only question that I have is how does it feel
> when used for substantial things.
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
>
> P.S. My belief in it was actually reaffirmed by a raving
> endorsement it got from an old LISP community. Those
> guys are a bit like 9fans, if you know what I mean ;-)
>
>
> On Tue, 2009-03-03 at 10:38 -0800, Bakul Shah wrote:
> > On Tue, 03 Mar 2009 10:11:10 PST "Roman V. Shaposhnik" <rvs@sun.com>
>  wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2009-03-03 at 07:19 -0800, David Leimbach wrote:
> > >
> > > > My knowledge on this subject is about 8 or 9 years old, so check with
> your
> > > local Python guru....
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The last I'd heard about Python's threading is that it was
> cooperative
> > > > only, and that you couldn't get real parallelism out of it.  It
> serves
> > > > as a means to organize your program in a concurrent manner.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In other words no two threads run at the same time in Python, even if
> > > > you're on a multi-core system, due to something they call a "Global
> > > > Interpreter Lock".
> > >
> > > I believe GIL is as present in Python nowadays as ever. On a related
> > > note: does anybody know any sane interpreted languages with a decent
> > > threading model to go along? Stackless python is the only thing that
> > > I'm familiar with in that department.
> >
> > Depend on what you mean by "sane interpreted language with a
> > decent threading model" and what you want to do with it but
> > check out www.clojure.org.  Then there is Erlang.  Its
> > wikipedia entry has this to say:
> >     Although Erlang was designed to fill a niche and has
> >     remained an obscure language for most of its existence,
> >     it is experiencing a rapid increase in popularity due to
> >     increased demand for concurrent services, inferior models
> >     of concurrency in most mainstream programming languages,
> >     and its substantial libraries and documentation.[7][8]
> >     Well-known applications include Amazon SimpleDB,[9]
> >     Yahoo! Delicious,[10] and the Facebook Chat system.[11]
> >
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