From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20090701192454.GA31691@jg.domain_not_set.invalid> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 13:58:19 -0700 Message-ID: <3e1162e60907011358w7662ff53je2304e7266c2fa8e@mail.gmail.com> From: David Leimbach To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364edf6edb3139046dab2e51 Subject: Re: [9fans] Guide to using Acme effectively? Topicbox-Message-UUID: 126195f0-ead5-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --0016364edf6edb3139046dab2e51 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Russ Cox wrote: > Arguing about mouse vs keyboard misses the point. > I'm very happy with acme's use of the mouse, but > acme's power comes from the rest of its design. > > Russ > > Even in Emacs, I use the mouse because pointing the insertion point or cursor or whatever to where I need to type next is *much* faster than many repetitions of a keypress a lot of the time. Sometimes I do only need to travel up or down one line at a time though, and then the mouse seems like a waste of time to grab, so I just ctrl-n or ctrl-p in Emacs to get there (yes I don't use arrows unless I have to, and no this didn't feel natural for a long time). I suspect there's no perfect editor interface available. All of them beat editing crap on my iPhone :-) Dave --0016364edf6edb3139046dab2e51 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Russ Co= x <rsc@swtch.com&= gt; wrote:
Arguing about mouse vs keyboard misses the point.
I'm very happy with acme's use of the mouse, but
acme's power comes from the rest of its design.

Russ


Even in Emacs, I use the mouse because p= ointing the insertion point or cursor or whatever to where I need to type n= ext is *much* faster than many repetitions of a keypress a lot of the time.= =A0

Sometimes I do only need to travel up or down one line = at a time though, and then the mouse seems like a waste of time to grab, so= I just ctrl-n or ctrl-p in Emacs to get there (yes I don't use arrows = unless I have to, and no this didn't feel natural for a long time).

I suspect there's no perfect editor interface avail= able. =A0All of them beat editing crap on my iPhone :-)

Dave
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