Re: [9fans] An excerpt from Syllable's description

[David Leimbach <leimy2k@gmail.com>]

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Is that not still based on NewOS?
http://newos.org/

At least I think that's the kernel they were using for a while (I ran newOS
briefly a long time ago "raw".  It had enough stuff to get you to a shell
and an irc client from a boot floppy IIRC)

That was done by Travis Geiselbrecht
who worked at Danger on the Sidekick phone for T-Mobile, helped get
the iPhone bootstrapped at apple, and is now at Palm working on the
Pre :-)

Dave

On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 12:29 PM, pmarin <pacogeek@gmail.com> wrote:

> I wonder if is possible that underground operating systems like Haiku,
> Aros or Plan9 should share some kind of knowledge database (not only
> the source code) about drivers implementation and don't try to
> reinvent the wheel. Haiku seems to do a great job, for example their
> network drivers are taken from Freebsd, the sound drivers from OSS4,
> etc.
>
> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 6:09 PM, John Floren<slawmaster@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Why do we have to care about every self-righteous pronouncement from
> > every minor project out there? Why should we have to put everything
> > into a "Plan 9 context"?
> >
> > If you want to relate Plan 9 to Syllable, look at their forums--it
> > seems to have the same sort of problems as Plan 9. Lacking in drivers
> > (a quick look showed that they don't have PCMCIA, WLAN, or PPP
> > support), new users coming in expecting it to be like other operating
> > systems (I'm looking at you, Balwinder) or trolls calling it dead, and
> > in general an apparent lack of people writing programs for it.
> > Syllable looks to be POSIX-compliant (I think) which is probably how
> > they have Quake most of the other ported programs.
> >
> > John
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 2:13 AM, Balwinder S
> > Dheeman<bsd.SANSPAM@cto.homelinux.net> wrote:
> >> Computer scientists will tell you that their operating systems and tools
> >> are fine, because they like them to be complex. Companies will tell you
> >> that their machines or devices are fine, because they like to control
> >> them by hiding requisite device specifications and, or applications
> >> notes, even though you own them. Yet, some people remember a few
> >> machines from decades ago that were different. They got run over in the
> >> gold rush, but they proved that it is possible to build much more
> >> helpful machines. And if it was possible then, it is certainly possible
> >> now, because the hardware that computers are built from has become much
> >> more powerful. It's the software that is often not working in the
> >> interest of the owner. In the /Syllable/ project, we are using this
> >> power to help the owner instead of the scientists and the big companies.
> >>
> >> Please comment the above in a Plan 9 context.
> >> --
> >> Balwinder S "bdheeman" Dheeman        Registered Linux User: #229709
> >> Anu'z Linux@HOME (Unix Shoppe)        Machines: #168573, 170593, 259192
> >> Chandigarh, UT, 160062, India         Plan9, T2, Arch/Debian/FreeBSD/XP
> >> Home: http://werc.homelinux.net/      Visit: http://counter.li.org/
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > "Object-oriented design is the roman numerals of computing" -- Rob Pike
> >
> >
>
>

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