From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090804152009.A55295B76@mail.bitblocks.com> References: <95b41e5c5987b4c66130ed76b9e1b936@quanstro.net> <28c8e7f7e7d4c123ec7ff4a64e4e41d7@plan9.bell-labs.com> <3e1162e60908032012j7611674fkdee43c2bf51134ed@mail.gmail.com> <20090804072516.D6CFB5B3B@mail.bitblocks.com> <3e1162e60908040547u1187c904r791d38657e501205@mail.gmail.com> <20090804152009.A55295B76@mail.bitblocks.com> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:25:53 -0700 Message-ID: <3e1162e60908040825p2e9ac95exbb777019b6c80a55@mail.gmail.com> From: David Leimbach To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd482e69883ff0470528039 Subject: Re: [9fans] Parallels Vesa driver question Topicbox-Message-UUID: 382f0236-ead5-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --000e0cd482e69883ff0470528039 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Bakul Shah > wrote: > On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 05:47:25 PDT David Leimbach > wrote: > > > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 12:25 AM, Bakul Shah > > < > bakul%2Bplan9@bitblocks.com > > > > wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 20:12:08 PDT David Leimbach > > > wrote: > > > > Wow.... Where's parallels 4. I doubt I qualify for a free one. And > > > VMWare > > > > Fusion really sucks with Plan 9 at the moment :-( > > > > > > qemu works well enough for me on FreeBSD & Linux but not on a > > > Mac. VirtualBox doesn't run plan9 but it runs FreeBSD, Linux > > > and Windows fairly well so may be there is hope. There is an > > > open source version of VirtualBox that might be worth > > > tinkering with. > > > > > > I was considering giving qemu a try on the mac. I believe there's a mac > > centric front-end for it even. > > It's called Q. Don't bother. > > > In fact, how much of virtualbox is using qemu? > > I think vbox devices and recompiler are based on qemu but I > don't really know. IIRC early qemu did seem to have similar > issues with plan9. > > Since other OSes run pretty well, my guess is something plan9 > depends on heavily has to be emulated (due to memory layout > assumptions or something). > I've also tried Minix and QNX and both have problems on Virtual Box. Which other OSes did you try? Linux and windows work but they're like necessary to even claim you can do anything virtualization wise. Dave --000e0cd482e69883ff0470528039 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Bakul Sh= ah <bak= ul+plan9@bitblocks.com> wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 05:47:25 PDT David Leimbach <leimy2k@gmail.com> =A0wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 12:25 AM, Bakul Shah
> <bakul+plan9@bitbloc= ks.com<bakul%2Bplan= 9@bitblocks.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 20:12:08 PDT David Leimbach <leimy2k@gmail.com>
> > =A0wrote:
> > > Wow.... =A0Where's parallels 4. =A0I doubt I qualify for= a free one. =A0And
> > VMWare
> > > Fusion really sucks with Plan 9 at the moment :-(
> >
> > qemu works well enough for me on FreeBSD & Linux but not on a=
> > Mac. =A0VirtualBox doesn't run plan9 but it runs FreeBSD, Lin= ux
> > and Windows fairly well so may be there is hope. =A0There is an > > open source version of VirtualBox that might be worth
> > tinkering with.
> >
> > I was considering giving qemu a try on the mac. I believe there&#= 39;s a mac
> centric front-end for it even.

It's called Q. Don't bother.

> In fact, how much of virtualbox is using qemu?

I think vbox devices and recompiler are based on qemu but I
don't really know. =A0IIRC early qemu did seem to have similar
issues with plan9.

Since other OSes run pretty well, my guess is something plan9
depends on heavily has to be emulated (due to memory layout
assumptions or something).

I've also tried Minix and QNX and both= have problems on Virtual Box. =A0Which other OSes did you try? =A0Linux an= d windows work but they're like necessary to even claim you can do anyt= hing virtualization wise.

Dave
=A0

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