From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <13426df11003211447x61159036td8f217e9cc7052d2@mail.gmail.com> References: <13426df11003202248l4c8f9577ueab252b93b785810@mail.gmail.com> <13426df11003211447x61159036td8f217e9cc7052d2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 08:47:05 -0700 Message-ID: <3e1162e61003220847k2129d16ara4474e75e2c2a755@mail.gmail.com> From: David Leimbach To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd706d6e53d080482659b47 Subject: Re: [9fans] recreational programming of an evening Topicbox-Message-UUID: eefac8a6-ead5-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --000e0cd706d6e53d080482659b47 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 2:47 PM, ron minnich wrote: > On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Stuart Morrow > wrote: > > > so, are you basically saying that linux is a complex operating system, > > and it just takes a genius to understand its complexity? > > > no, it's just badly designed. Working with a bad design gives me a > splitting headache. I make my living doing linux but that doesn't mean > I have to worship at the altar, right? > > ron > > I got the hunch it wasn't designed at all, but more "hacked on" or evolved. Different subsystems appear to have designs, but there doesn't seem to be anything stopping people from stomping all over the structures and glue that make it possible for a driver to last very long without updates needed. At least that's been my experience. In fact the evolutionary nature appears to have been backed as an advantage by Linus himself. Dave --000e0cd706d6e53d080482659b47 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 2:47 PM, ron min= nich <rminnich@g= mail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Stuart Morrow
<morrow.stuart@googlemai= l.com> wrote:

> so, are you basically saying that linux is a complex operating system,=
> and it just takes a genius to understand its complexity?


no, it's just badly designed. Working with a bad design gives me a
splitting headache. I make my living doing linux but that doesn't mean<= br> I have to worship at the altar, right?

ron


I got the hunch it wasn't d= esigned at all, but more "hacked on" or evolved. =A0Different sub= systems appear to have designs, but there doesn't seem to be anything s= topping people from stomping all over the structures and glue that make it = possible for a driver to last very long without updates needed. =A0At least= that's been my experience.

In fact the evolutionary nature appears to have been ba= cked as an advantage by Linus himself.

Dave<= /div> --000e0cd706d6e53d080482659b47--