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From: lucio@proxima.alt.za
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] Sources Gone?
Date: Tue,  3 Feb 2009 06:23:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3e6d4eab4549250f8552796cec33cf81@proxima.alt.za> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1233614010.4412.412.camel@goose.sun.com>

> The one and only fundamental limitation of the current interface
> offered by venti is that I can give it a score to something that
> doesn't belong to me and it gives me the information back. It is
> the limitation of the API, not the way data is managed.

I'm not sure how you'd fix this.  What if only a portion of the block
belongs to me and the other happens to be the password file?  You need
to draw boundaries at different security entities and that makes
compression and especially duplicate suppression much less effective.

You could argue that the security information provides its own
boundaries, but making venti aware of them does add a lot of
complications that in my opinion should be (and already are) solved
elsewhere.  I did propose that compression and encryption ought to be
concurrent in venti, but that solves only part of the problem and
raises new problems such as key management.

++L

PS: As for the problem we're trying to solve, I'm afraid I've long ago
lost track :-)




  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-02-03  4:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-23 11:56 Gregory Pavelcak
2009-01-23 14:15 ` erik quanstrom
2009-01-23 14:54 ` lucio
2009-01-23 15:09   ` erik quanstrom
2009-01-27 22:59   ` Uriel
2009-01-27 23:32     ` Russ Cox
2009-01-28  0:58       ` Kenji Arisawa
2009-01-28  5:06       ` Uriel
2009-01-28 11:46         ` Iruata Souza
2009-01-28 12:41           ` Charles Forsyth
2009-01-28 13:53         ` erik quanstrom
2009-01-29 12:12           ` Uriel
2009-01-29 13:37             ` erik quanstrom
2009-01-29 16:45               ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2009-01-29 16:15             ` ron minnich
2009-01-29 16:34               ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2009-01-29 16:30             ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2009-01-29 17:18               ` Russ Cox
2009-01-29 17:30                 ` erik quanstrom
2009-01-29 17:43                   ` Russ Cox
2009-01-29 17:39                 ` gas
2009-01-29 21:09                 ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2009-01-29 21:42                   ` erik quanstrom
2009-01-29 23:05                     ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2009-01-29 23:49                       ` erik quanstrom
2009-01-30  0:28                         ` Russ Cox
2009-01-30  4:46                           ` [9fans] Venti and version control (Was: Sources Gone?) lucio
2009-01-30  5:18                       ` [9fans] Sources Gone? lucio
2009-01-31 13:45                         ` Bruce Ellis
2009-01-31 18:12                           ` Akshat Kumar
2009-01-31 18:44                             ` Bruce Ellis
2009-02-02 22:33                         ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2009-02-02 22:43                           ` erik quanstrom
2009-02-02 23:26                             ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2009-02-02 23:39                               ` erik quanstrom
2009-02-03 10:04                             ` Richard Miller
2009-02-03  4:23                           ` lucio [this message]
2009-02-03  5:23                             ` erik quanstrom
2009-02-03  5:47                               ` lucio
2009-02-03 12:54                                 ` erik quanstrom
2009-02-03 13:38                                   ` roger peppe
2009-02-03 14:01                                     ` erik quanstrom
2009-02-03 16:13                                       ` Anthony Sorace
2009-02-03 16:22                                         ` erik quanstrom
2009-02-03 16:51                                       ` roger peppe
2009-02-03 16:55                                         ` erik quanstrom
2009-02-03 17:30                                         ` Brian L. Stuart
2009-02-05  1:24                                           ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2009-02-03 17:42                                       ` lucio
2009-02-03 17:40                                     ` lucio
2009-02-03 17:51                                       ` erik quanstrom
2009-02-04  8:40                                   ` sqweek
2009-02-04 16:40                                     ` [9fans] Some arithmetic [was: Re: Sources Gone?] Nathaniel W Filardo
2009-02-04 17:10                                       ` Nathaniel W Filardo
2009-02-04 17:49                                       ` hiro
2009-02-05 11:19                                         ` Dave Eckhardt
2009-02-05 17:38                                           ` Russ Cox
2009-02-05 17:41                                             ` erik quanstrom
2009-02-05 18:08                                               ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2009-02-05 18:22                                                 ` Micah Stetson
2009-02-05 18:29                                                   ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2009-02-05 18:31                                                     ` erik quanstrom
2009-02-05 18:32                                               ` hiro
2009-01-30  4:25                     ` [9fans] Sources Gone? lucio
2009-01-29 22:33                   ` Russ Cox
2009-01-29 22:58                     ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2009-01-29 23:06                       ` Russ Cox
2009-01-29 12:13           ` kokamoto
2009-01-27 23:11   ` Patrick Kristiansen
2009-01-28  0:11     ` Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan
2009-01-28  5:55       ` lucio
2009-01-29 18:00 erik quanstrom
2009-01-29 18:00 erik quanstrom
     [not found] <2b0250f2fe16a645a4641825c2f33741@quanstro.net>
2009-02-03 17:27 ` lucio
2009-02-05  1:20   ` Roman V. Shaposhnik

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