* Re: [9fans] mm macro documentation
2007-01-08 4:06 [9fans] mm macro documentation Benn Newman
@ 2007-01-08 5:26 ` Vester Thacker
2007-01-08 8:24 ` Steve Simon
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From: Vester Thacker @ 2007-01-08 5:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
The Troff's User Manual might be helpful to you, see
http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sys/doc/troff.pdf
Regards,
Vester
On 1/8/07, Benn Newman <newmanbe@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote:
> Plan 9 includes the ?roff mm macros (/sys/lib/tmac/tmac.m) but no
> documentation. Anyone know what is up with that? I printed out a boot-leg
> version of one of O'Reilly's books that has mm documenation but it is not
> complete (doesn't document letters, for example, which Plan 9's troff has)
> and its not in everyone's favourite man(6).
>
> But as always, it beats groff! It's implementation and documentation of mm
> are brain dead.
> --
> Benn Newman
>
>
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* Re: [9fans] mm macro documentation
2007-01-08 4:06 [9fans] mm macro documentation Benn Newman
2007-01-08 5:26 ` Vester Thacker
@ 2007-01-08 8:24 ` Steve Simon
2007-01-09 3:33 ` Benn Newman
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From: Steve Simon @ 2007-01-08 8:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
I believe Plan9's document formatting applications is pretty much a straight
port of those in V10 Research Unix.
"Typing Documents on the UNIX System: using -ms ..." , Lorinda Cherry and Mike Lesk
This paper is part of the 10th edition manual, though an online version
is linked from the Plan9 wiki or more directly,
http://plan9.bell-labs.com/10thEdMan/msdoc.pdf
The wiki also links to the tbl grap, pic and a few other
papers in the same area.
-Steve
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* Re: [9fans] mm macro documentation
2007-01-08 4:06 [9fans] mm macro documentation Benn Newman
2007-01-08 5:26 ` Vester Thacker
2007-01-08 8:24 ` Steve Simon
@ 2007-01-09 3:33 ` Benn Newman
2007-01-09 4:17 ` geoff
2007-01-09 3:36 ` [9fans] mm macro documentation Benn Newman
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From: Benn Newman @ 2007-01-09 3:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
The Tenth Edition manual doesn't have mm (in the second volume at least)
and the troff manual only helps if one wants to make a new manual page (my
start at one is at contrib/btdn/man/6/mm)
To be more concrete, it would be nice to either have
"MM - Memorandum Macros. D. W. Smith, J. R. Mashey, E. C. Pariser, and N.
W. Smith, AT&T Bell Laboratories, June 1980." or mm(6). I suppose
<http://inetsd01.boulder.ibm.com/pseries/hu_HU/cmds/aixcmds5/troff.htm>
will do for now...
I have started an index file of the various things in /sys/lib/tmac at
contrib/btdn/doc/tmac -- if you have an account you can update it
yourself, or you can email me corrections. Some of the things can probably
be deleted, at least from the view of someone outside of Bell Labs. No
offence to Arun N. Netravali, but are (complet cover)^.1127 needed?
tmac.org is just a .so to /usr/lib/macros/org.
And in case no one has noticed, the sources website doesn't work.
--
Benn Newman
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* Re: [9fans] mm macro documentation
2007-01-08 4:06 [9fans] mm macro documentation Benn Newman
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2007-01-09 3:33 ` Benn Newman
@ 2007-01-09 3:36 ` Benn Newman
2007-01-12 16:29 ` Joel Salomon
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From: Benn Newman @ 2007-01-09 3:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
The Tenth Edition manual doesn't have mm (in the second volume at least)
and the troff manual only helps if one wants to make a new manual page (my
start at one is at contrib/btdn/man/6/mm)
To be more concrete, it would be nice to either have
"MM - Memorandum Macros. D. W. Smith, J. R. Mashey, E. C. Pariser, and N.
W. Smith, AT&T Bell Laboratories, June 1980."/"Addendum to the Memorandum
Macros User's Manual.
December, 1986." or mm(6). I suppose
<http://inetsd01.boulder.ibm.com/pseries/hu_HU/cmds/aixcmds5/troff.htm>
will do for now...
I have started an index file of the various things in /sys/lib/tmac at
contrib/btdn/doc/tmac -- if you have an account you can update it
yourself, or you can email me corrections. Some of the things can probably
be deleted, at least from the view of someone outside of Bell Labs. No
offence to Arun N. Netravali, but are (complet cover)^.1127 needed?
tmac.org is just a .so to /usr/lib/macros/org.
And in case no one has noticed, the sources website doesn't work.
--
Benn Newman
--
Benn Newman
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* Re: [9fans] mm macro documentation
2007-01-08 4:06 [9fans] mm macro documentation Benn Newman
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2007-01-09 3:36 ` [9fans] mm macro documentation Benn Newman
@ 2007-01-12 16:29 ` Joel Salomon
2007-01-12 16:38 ` Russ Cox
2007-01-12 21:41 ` Benn Newman
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From: Joel Salomon @ 2007-01-12 16:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
On 1/7/07, Benn Newman <newmanbe@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote:
> I printed out a boot-leg version of one of O'Reilly's books that has mm
> documenation but it is not complete
Do you mean <http://www.oreilly.com/openbook/utp/>? That's not
samizdat; it's been officially released.
Is there any chance of the 10th (or earlier) Edition manual sources
being made available to be brought up-to-date and added to /sys/doc?
--Joel
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* Re: [9fans] mm macro documentation
2007-01-12 16:29 ` Joel Salomon
@ 2007-01-12 16:38 ` Russ Cox
2007-01-12 16:52 ` Joel Salomon
2007-01-12 21:41 ` Benn Newman
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From: Russ Cox @ 2007-01-12 16:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
> Is there any chance of the 10th (or earlier) Edition manual sources
> being made available to be brought up-to-date and added to /sys/doc?
As Arnold pointed out, the 10th Edition Unix manuals
do not cover -mm, neither in Volume 1 (man pages) nor in
Volume 2 (papers).
Russ
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* Re: [9fans] mm macro documentation
2007-01-12 16:38 ` Russ Cox
@ 2007-01-12 16:52 ` Joel Salomon
2007-01-12 16:58 ` Brantley Coile
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From: Joel Salomon @ 2007-01-12 16:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
> > Is there any chance of the 10th (or earlier) Edition manual sources
> > being made available to be brought up-to-date and added to /sys/doc?
>
> As Arnold pointed out, the 10th Edition Unix manuals
> do not cover -mm, neither in Volume 1 (man pages) nor in
> Volume 2 (papers).
9th Ed., then? 8th?
--Joel
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* Re: [9fans] mm macro documentation
2007-01-12 16:29 ` Joel Salomon
2007-01-12 16:38 ` Russ Cox
@ 2007-01-12 21:41 ` Benn Newman
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From: Benn Newman @ 2007-01-12 21:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
Joel Salomon said:
> On 1/7/07, Benn Newman <newmanbe@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote:
>> I printed out a boot-leg version of one of O'Reilly's books that has mm
>> documenation but it is not complete
>
> Do you mean <http://www.oreilly.com/openbook/utp/>? That's not
> samizdat; it's been officially released.
No, that is not what I mean. Something along the lines of "UNIX in a
Nutshell."
> Is there any chance of the 10th (or earlier) Edition manual sources
> being made available to be brought up-to-date and added to /sys/doc?
I don't know. The papers have people's names on them, I'm not sure how
they would like us changing things (it's not exactly like source code).
Would it be appropriate, for example, for the community to send patches
for /sys/doc/9.ms?
> --Joel
>
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Benn Newman
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