From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 References: <52554a7239d32323022bb20278974840@bellsouth.net> In-Reply-To: <52554a7239d32323022bb20278974840@bellsouth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8J2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <40FDD27D-AE27-47F9-8BC8-AB8AD54C1DA7@gmail.com> Cc: "9fans@9fans.net" <9fans@9fans.net> From: David Leimbach Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 07:23:00 -0700 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] crazy idea - drawterm in javascript? Topicbox-Message-UUID: e6482090-ead6-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 Sent from my iPhone On May 18, 2011, at 5:24 AM, blstuart@bellsouth.net wrote: >> On 05/18/2011 05:12 AM, Jacob Todd wrote: >>> Writing/porting web stuff to plan 9 will be hard. Writing something that= >>> accesses plan 9 from the web will be less hard. >>=20 >> "The KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid) acronym has been popular in business=20= >> for decades, but its message has never been more important and, or=20 >> useful for many." -- Rob Tannen >>=20 >> "When simplifying, is's critical to target the right features for=20 >> excision, based on the customers' actual needs" -- Rob Tannen >=20 > I'm confused. Why are we using business ideas to constrain what > we are doing with a research system? It seems to me that what > we work on (outside what puts food on the table) should be driven > primarily by what we find intellectually stimulating. I personally > get no stimulation over the idea of porting an existing web browser. > However, the idea of an emulator in a highly portable environment > was interesting enough that I looked around some and found a > PDP-11 emulator running 6th Edition (also in js). I couldn't help > but think about extending Bellard's work to include a drawable > device and a network interface and then building a Plan 9 terminal > for it, or running native Inferno on it, or using the same ideas to > build a Dis VM in js, or... It's true that utility can be a meaningful > motivator for what questions we look at, but if all you care about > is utility, it's hard to beat an android tablet. Like most of us, I > worry about what customers want in my day job. But what > customers want is boring to the point of suicide. To borrow from > the bard; "There is more in the computing universe than is dreamt > of in the PC/Web philosophy." Plan 9 and Inferno are the best > places I've found to glimpse that hidden beauty. >=20 > BLS >=20 >=20 I don't think there's any real constraints. Bottom line is the code is ther= e and it's pretty nice. You can do what you want. If you seek outside appr= oval to chase an idea, you've already failed the most important person in th= e equation - yourself. Who cares what anyone else thinks? Or as Homer Simpson said, "I'm sure Einstein turned himself all kinds of col= ors before he invented the light bulb".=