From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <4105048E.6000500@austin.rr.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 08:18:06 -0500 From: Eric Van Hensbergen User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5 (X11/20040208) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] plan9dev@googlegroups.com References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Lucio De Re Topicbox-Message-UUID: c7897c20-eacd-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 Lucio De Re wrote: >>The intent of this list is for people who are actually working on Plan >>9 projects to be able to communicate. This is not an advocacy list, >>nor is it a place to whine about incumbent operating systems or lack of >>some functionality/application within Plan 9. >> >> > >I like the idea, but in my opinion the scope ought to be as carefully >defined as possible to be worth subscribing in addition or >alternatively to 9fans. Nothing like some clear rules to >self-moderate by ;-) > >++L > > I'd really prefer it to be a development list - a place to talk about what people are working on within Plan 9. Whereas 9fans is more of a user/advocacy list - where people ask questions about using existing functionality, hardware support, installing a cpu server for the first time, etc. 9dev would be more for discussing where we want to take the technology -- What are the issues going to 64-bit, are there ways to tie Plan 9 functionality in better with incumbant OSs (ala plan9ports), etc. With only jmk being left in Murray Hill, the community really needs to step up and start working towards the future, or stuff is going to just fade away (no doubt to be reinvented later on). The difference (for me), is that I only scan 9fans because the bulk of it really doesn't interest me -- and as a result, I miss some of the important bits about what people are actually doing with the technology. I know the prevailing sentiment is that Plan 9 is dead, and has been for some time -- but I think there is still some hope to rally the troops and work towards a community released "5th edition". I also think its well worth the community's time to improve/expand Russ' plan9ports stuff. So, we'll see. plan9dev is a list for people who actually want to/(have time to) write code. It is a place to post what people are doing instead of wish-lists for what people should do. -eric