From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <4178B2ED.6070409@anvil.com> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 08:12:45 +0100 From: Dave Lukes User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (X11/20040626) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] alright, this should be interesting References: <16c92c57f1d27fe3631417e7279cf6a4@9netics.com> In-Reply-To: <16c92c57f1d27fe3631417e7279cf6a4@9netics.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Topicbox-Message-UUID: f346645e-eacd-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 > Moral relativism doesn't apply to ugly code (and cannibalism). >>Are you telling me that Google would be demonstrably better >>built on Plan 9? I can't see that, and nor would any of >>their customers, because the kernel is hidden from view. >> >> > >Better and different. They could do things that they can't do >(easily) now. When you multiply not-easy by a large number, it >becomes an impossibility. > Yes!!!!! Also, even if it's not impossible, no-one with any taste wants to get involved: I _could_ contribute to Linux, but there's no way I can be bothered to even look at the code, far less contribute, because a red mist descends ASA I even look at the directory structure. > And yes, there would be a >practical problem of building Plan9 administrative expertise -- mostly >a mater of time. > > Well, actually ... >>Most users in the world don't see the code, and don't care >>about it's uglyness. They care whether something works and is >>easy to use. >> >> ... and interestingly, speaking as an SA, NEITHER DO THE SAs! They are users too: you give them a set of tools to reboot a server, offline a disk in a RAID array, check the length of a mail queue ... it's only the "developers" (of the kernel/apps, ...) who really care about any of the underlying stuff. DaveL.