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From: Jason Gurtz <jason@tommyk.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] alright, this should be interesting
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 15:02:26 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <41795942.1050802@tommyk.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4178B2ED.6070409@anvil.com>

On 10/22/2004 03:12, Dave Lukes wrote:

>>>Most users in the world don't see the code, and don't care
>>>about it's uglyness. They care whether something works and is
>>>easy to use.
>>>    
>>>
> ... and interestingly, speaking as an SA, NEITHER DO THE SAs!
> They are users too:

OTOH, sometimes clean src is--at least to this SA--a good thing.  ...like
the time I was investigating why sendmail (w/ strict helo checking turned
on) was rejecting a certain Tektronix printer we have.  Turns out the
buggy MFer (they would not fix this!) was saying

    helo myDomain.com\n
space char-------------^

instead of

    helo mydomain.com\n

What I found, at least in the case of sendmail-8.12.x (and taking into
account my haltingly poor grasp of anything more than elementary C :), was
that it wasn't too hard to take this particular case into account and
still turn away the more egregiously broken SMTP engines of certain
malware.  Surely there must be cases like this in kernel land too?

~Jason

-- 


  reply	other threads:[~2004-10-22 19:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-10-05 17:36 andrey mirtchovski
2004-10-06  1:07 ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-10-06  1:25   ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-10-06  5:25     ` geoff
2004-10-06  7:52   ` C H Forsyth
2004-10-18 16:05     ` Leo Caves
2004-10-19  2:50       ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-10-19 15:44         ` Ronald G. Minnich
2004-10-19 15:57           ` Dave Lukes
2004-10-19 19:45             ` Tim Newsham
2004-10-19 21:22               ` Ronald G. Minnich
2004-10-19 22:47                 ` Charles Forsyth
2004-10-19 23:39                   ` Dave Lukes
2004-10-20  3:25                 ` Tim Newsham
2004-10-20  9:46                   ` Steve Simon
2004-10-20 14:20                     ` Russ Cox
2004-10-20 19:47                   ` Ronald G. Minnich
2004-10-20 20:29                     ` Ronald G. Minnich
2004-10-20 20:41                     ` boyd, rounin
2004-10-21  1:31                     ` Tim Newsham
2004-10-21 16:19                       ` Ronald G. Minnich
2004-10-19 23:17               ` Dave Lukes
2004-10-20  4:01                 ` Tim Newsham
2004-10-20  4:19                   ` Russ Cox
2004-10-20  4:27                     ` Kenji Okamoto
2004-10-20  6:23                     ` Skip Tavakkolian
2004-10-20  7:36                       ` Nigel Roles
2004-10-20 11:20                         ` Dave Lukes
2004-10-20 12:36                           ` Nigel Roles
2004-10-20 13:45                             ` Brantley Coile
2004-10-24  5:33                               ` Dan Cross
2004-10-24 11:53                                 ` Tiit Lankots
2004-10-24 13:44                                   ` Brantley Coile
2004-10-25 11:23                                     ` Dave Lukes
2004-10-20 17:06                         ` Skip Tavakkolian
2004-10-22  7:12                           ` Dave Lukes
2004-10-22 19:02                             ` Jason Gurtz [this message]
2004-10-23  1:27                               ` Dave Lukes
2004-10-20 18:40                         ` boyd, rounin
2004-10-20 20:16                           ` Nigel Roles
2004-10-20 20:46                             ` boyd, rounin
2004-10-20 19:59                       ` Ronald G. Minnich
2004-10-20 20:02                         ` Russ Cox
2004-10-20 20:05                           ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2004-10-20 20:25                           ` Charles Forsyth
2004-10-20 20:48                             ` boyd, rounin
2004-10-21 18:36                             ` Dave Lukes
2004-10-21  4:47                           ` William Josephson
2004-10-20 20:44                         ` boyd, rounin
2004-10-23 18:54                           ` Dan Cross
2004-10-20 11:13                     ` Dave Lukes
2004-10-20 11:09                   ` Dave Lukes

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