From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <41795942.1050802@tommyk.com> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 15:02:26 -0400 From: Jason Gurtz User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20041008) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] alright, this should be interesting References: <16c92c57f1d27fe3631417e7279cf6a4@9netics.com> <4178B2ED.6070409@anvil.com> In-Reply-To: <4178B2ED.6070409@anvil.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Topicbox-Message-UUID: f4bb6bea-eacd-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 On 10/22/2004 03:12, Dave Lukes wrote: >>>Most users in the world don't see the code, and don't care >>>about it's uglyness. They care whether something works and is >>>easy to use. >>> >>> > ... and interestingly, speaking as an SA, NEITHER DO THE SAs! > They are users too: OTOH, sometimes clean src is--at least to this SA--a good thing. ...like the time I was investigating why sendmail (w/ strict helo checking turned on) was rejecting a certain Tektronix printer we have. Turns out the buggy MFer (they would not fix this!) was saying helo myDomain.com\n space char-------------^ instead of helo mydomain.com\n What I found, at least in the case of sendmail-8.12.x (and taking into account my haltingly poor grasp of anything more than elementary C :), was that it wasn't too hard to take this particular case into account and still turn away the more egregiously broken SMTP engines of certain malware. Surely there must be cases like this in kernel land too? ~Jason --