[9fans] Re: 9fans Digest, Vol 16, Issue 19

[Unix <unix@dominique-werner.com>]

just wanted to say thanks, I finally got Plan 9 to install on my Compaq 
AP550 with graphic, the FreeBSD bootloader didn't pick up Plan 9 
though..does anyone know if Grub will boot Plan 9?

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>   1. Re: auth(2) auth_wep usage? (Axel Belinfante)
>   2. Re: 9fans Digest, Vol 16, Issue 18 (Unix)
>   3. Re: auth(2) auth_wep usage? (Russ Cox)
>   4. Re: New to Plan 9, boot and install on Compaq AP550?
>      (Ezequiel Reyes)
>   5. Re: New to Plan 9, boot and install on Compaq AP550?
>      (Anselm R. Garbe)
>   6. Re: New to Plan 9, boot and install on Compaq AP550? (Russ Cox)
>   7. Re: New to Plan 9, boot and install on Compaq AP550?
>      (Christoph Lohmann)
>   8. Re: New to Plan 9, boot and install on Compaq AP550?
>      (Anselm R. Garbe)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 18:00:34 +0200
>From: Axel Belinfante <Axel.Belinfante@cs.utwente.nl>
>Subject: Re: [9fans] auth(2) auth_wep usage?
>To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
>Message-ID: <200508121600.j7CG0Yo00221@demeter.cs.utwente.nl>
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>>>I got the impression I have first to push a key
>>>to factotum, after which auth_wep picks it up.
>>>is there a more direct way to do it?
>>>I could not find a libarary routine to push the key
>>>to factotum in some programmatic way.
>>>      
>>>
>>read /sys/src/cmd/auth/factotum/wep.c
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>I already had done so.
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>>factotum wep hands off the key directly to the
>>ethernet card so as not to reveal the secret.
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>i see.  just curious, is there any particular reason it
>only supports keys 1-3 and not 4? (adding is trivial)
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>>it doesn't sound like that's appropriate here
>>so just write it directly yourself.
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>fully correct. turned out I already had the
>control-fd to the card open...
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>Message: 2
>Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 18:09:47 +0200
>From: Unix <unix@dominique-werner.com>
>Subject: [9fans] Re: 9fans Digest, Vol 16, Issue 18
>To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
>Message-ID: <42FCC9CB.50406@dominique-werner.com>
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>Thanks for the tips. The Adaptec controller is based on Highpoint 
>yes..HP370 and while it does work in BSD it's not exactly a reliable 
>controller, I had it running in a RAID0 in different BSDs and it kept 
>giving me errors and failing with the hard disk perfectly well in 
>health...I just have it in my system to get up to 100, the default is 60 
>in this workstation and since I can't use more than two drives with the 
>onboard controller. I was simply looking for some speed and backup when 
>I originally bought it...but in the meantime I've realized that even 
>gmirror seems to be the better solution, sad, I always thought hardware 
>raid was more reliable..anyway, thanks...I'll test...
>
>Domi
>
>9fans-request@cse.psu.edu wrote:
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>>Message: 7
>>Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 17:31:13 +0200
>>From: Christoph Lohmann <20h@r-36.net>
>>Subject: Re: [9fans] New to Plan 9, boot and install on Compaq AP550?
>>To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
>>Message-ID: <20050812173113.08e9d5eb.20h@r-36.net>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
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>>Good day.
>>
>>There is an experimental ISO at 9grid.de[0], for testing, if VESA works
>>or not. It can be booted as LiveCD used for trying out Plan 9. The other
>>possibility is to use Drawterm[1] for connecting to 9grid and so try out
>>Plan 9 as user. Booting Plan 9 from the FreeBSD bootloader should work,
>>as there is a standard bootloader in the 9fat partition, in the Plan 9
>>installation, the ATA HDD should be supported by now and can be seen on
>>the CD boot, by the "dev A* ..." lines after "ELCR: ...". Each of them
>>is a IDE device, that was found.
>>
>>Sincerely,
>>
>>Christoph
>>
>>[0] http://www.9grid.de/plan9/plan9vesa.iso.bz2
>>[1] http://pages.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~mirtchov/p9/ (drawterm-*.gz)
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>>Message: 8
>>Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 17:59:40 +0200
>>From: "Anselm R. Garbe" <garbeam@gmail.com>
>>Subject: Re: [9fans] New to Plan 9, boot and install on Compaq AP550?
>>To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
>>Message-ID: <89d1e7b80508120859c5f04fd@mail.gmail.com>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
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>>On 8/12/05, Unix <unix@dominique-werner.com> wrote:
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>>>this PC..I don't have a spare PC left, the hard disk btw, is running off
>>>an Adaptec 1200 H/W raid controller IDE...Is there any way to get this
>>>   
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>>>      
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>>I own(ed) that frking crappy controller as well, it's based on some
>>Highpoint 366/370 chipset, but is not detected by plan9 (including the
>>experimental vesa and daily ISOs of 9grid.de). When 4th Ed of plan9
>>was released, even Linux didn't knew that frking controller by default
>>- only the BSDs worked out of the box by that time.
>>
>>In the meantime I throwed this controller out of the window (which you
>>cannot even use for RAID0 in a "hardware" setup, it is actually
>>incomparable with a real SCSI RAID controller) and switched back to
>>the onboard ide driver which is recognized by plan9 and all other
>>OS'es so far.
>>
>>I highly recommend NOT to use any IDE-hardware-"RAID" at all...
>>there're better software based solutions...
>>
>>Regards,
>> 
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>Message: 3
>Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 12:09:35 -0400
>From: Russ Cox <russcox@gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [9fans] auth(2) auth_wep usage?
>To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
>Message-ID: <ee9e417a05081209097499f832@mail.gmail.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
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>>i see.  just curious, is there any particular reason it
>>only supports keys 1-3 and not 4? (adding is trivial)
>>    
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>probably just an oversight.
>
>russ
>
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>
>Message: 4
>Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 09:25:25 -0700
>From: "Ezequiel Reyes" <ezequiel.reyes@newhotel.co.cu>
>Subject: Re: [9fans] New to Plan 9, boot and install on Compaq AP550?
>To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
>Message-ID: <003f01c59f5a$74700aa0$e000a8c0@OBLIVIONDT>
>Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
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>I downloaded the vesa-enabled iso image, and it works well everywhere I have
>tested it, being various desktop machines and my dell laptop with nvidia
>card. Of course, I can only have a configuration of 1024x768x16 max (My
>laptop card allows 1600x1200x32 max). I can use and install plan 9 from the
>vesa iso with no video problems, but I would like to know if the iso is and
>will be mantained in sync with the latest plan 9 changes so that I know I
>could download it in the future and use an up to date system. I have a very
>slow internet conection, I can only download the iso from time to time. Are
>there plans to insert the vesa driver in the official iso? Or better, plans
>to get a basic nvidia driver in the future? In the former case, I am using
>it with no problems, so if it is in experimental state, it is very stable
>already.
>  Thanks.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Christoph Lohmann" <20h@r-36.net>
>To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
>Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 8:31 AM
>Subject: Re: [9fans] New to Plan 9, boot and install on Compaq AP550?
>
>
>  
>
>>Good day.
>>
>>There is an experimental ISO at 9grid.de[0], for testing, if VESA works
>>or not. It can be booted as LiveCD used for trying out Plan 9. The other
>>possibility is to use Drawterm[1] for connecting to 9grid and so try out
>>Plan 9 as user. Booting Plan 9 from the FreeBSD bootloader should work,
>>as there is a standard bootloader in the 9fat partition, in the Plan 9
>>installation, the ATA HDD should be supported by now and can be seen on
>>the CD boot, by the "dev A* ..." lines after "ELCR: ...". Each of them
>>is a IDE device, that was found.
>>
>>Sincerely,
>>
>>Christoph
>>
>>[0] http://www.9grid.de/plan9/plan9vesa.iso.bz2
>>[1] http://pages.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~mirtchov/p9/ (drawterm-*.gz)
>>
>>    
>>
>
>
>
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>
>Message: 5
>Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 18:34:53 +0200
>From: "Anselm R. Garbe" <garbeam@gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [9fans] New to Plan 9, boot and install on Compaq AP550?
>To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
>Message-ID: <89d1e7b8050812093433ba07ec@mail.gmail.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
>On 8/12/05, Ezequiel Reyes <ezequiel.reyes@newhotel.co.cu> wrote:
>  
>
>>I downloaded the vesa-enabled iso image, and it works well everywhere I have
>>tested it, being various desktop machines and my dell laptop with nvidia
>>card. Of course, I can only have a configuration of 1024x768x16 max (My
>>laptop card allows 1600x1200x32 max). I can use and install plan 9 from the
>>vesa iso with no video problems, but I would like to know if the iso is and
>>will be mantained in sync with the latest plan 9 changes so that I know I
>>could download it in the future and use an up to date system. I have a very
>>slow internet conection, I can only download the iso from time to time. Are
>>there plans to insert the vesa driver in the official iso? Or better, plans
>>    
>>
>
>Yeah, please include the vesa driver asap into the official ISO. Many
>interested people won't drop their attempts to get in touch with rio
>after booting into text mode and nothing works...
>Btw. including the radeon driver, which seems to be not available at
>the moment, could also be very helpful.
>
>Regards,
>  
>