From: Ronald G Minnich <rminnich@lanl.gov>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] killing processes
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 08:35:55 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <432986CB.8040909@lanl.gov> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d8a948097d6c6efab73e0a98b4dbd277@lsub.org>
Fco. J. Ballesteros wrote:
> Well, we could use Kill as said here, or even
> reboot the machine on saturdays 5am to make it clean,
> etc.
that's the one nice thing about a cluster node. You have lots of 'em,
they can be single user. So just let one cpu user in to one cluster node
at a time, and when they leave, reboot the node. If it's linuxbios the
node is back in 10 seconds or so, and if it is a linuxbios+plan 9 node
running xcpu, even faster than that (Plan 9 xcpu nodes boot in 1 second
in Xen).
> However, the PCs have so much CPU today that they don't even
> feel the need for a CPU server.
And that's the fun part. The relative power relationship of terminal/cpu
server got inverted about 10 years ago. In the kernel there is this
comment about ' ... for the big boys'. But, nowadays, the desktop is way
more powerful than any individual cluster node (well, if by nowadays,
you mean, "starting in 1992..."). So the "big boy" is on your desk, and
the toy computer is in your rack. It's just that there are so MANY toy
computers in the racks ... the ants overwhelm the elephant.
And on the really Big Boy, i.e. the BG/L machine at livermore, the
individual CPUs are running at clock rates that are "SO 1990s" -- 600
Mhz! But, given 65K of them, well, you don't mind that they're slow.
In that sense, the 'cpu server' is outdated nomenclature.
ron
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2005-09-15 14:18 Fco. J. Ballesteros
2005-09-15 14:35 ` Ronald G Minnich [this message]
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2005-09-16 1:53 YAMANASHI Takeshi
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2005-09-16 5:41 ` Russ Cox
2005-09-15 15:52 Fco. J. Ballesteros
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2005-09-15 15:46 ` Ronald G Minnich
2005-09-15 16:21 ` Lucio De Re
2005-09-15 16:41 ` Ronald G Minnich
2005-09-15 15:54 ` Lucio De Re
2005-09-15 15:04 Fco. J. Ballesteros
2005-09-15 15:19 ` Axel Belinfante
2005-09-15 17:06 ` andrey mirtchovski
2005-09-15 14:44 Fco. J. Ballesteros
2005-09-15 14:55 ` andrey mirtchovski
2005-09-15 15:02 ` Gabriel Diaz
2005-09-15 15:01 ` Axel Belinfante
2005-09-15 15:07 ` Uriel
2005-09-15 15:27 ` Russ Cox
2005-09-15 15:42 ` Lucio De Re
2005-09-15 15:50 ` Ronald G Minnich
2005-09-16 21:48 ` Wes Kussmaul
2005-09-17 0:48 ` Ronald G Minnich
2005-09-20 18:16 ` Steve Simon
2005-09-15 16:05 ` Uriel
2005-09-16 12:57 ` Axel Belinfante
2005-09-16 13:05 ` Lucio De Re
2005-09-16 13:21 ` Axel Belinfante
2005-09-16 13:42 ` andrey mirtchovski
2005-09-16 14:04 ` Sape Mullender
2005-09-16 14:20 ` Russ Cox
2005-09-17 6:28 ` Lucio De Re
2005-09-17 12:46 ` Sape Mullender
2005-09-17 15:07 ` Lucio De Re
2005-09-17 15:21 ` Russ Cox
2005-09-17 16:01 ` Lucio De Re
2005-09-18 13:02 ` Sape Mullender
2005-09-15 16:39 ` Charles Forsyth
2005-09-15 16:53 ` Ronald G Minnich
2005-09-15 20:27 ` Charles Forsyth
2005-09-16 3:09 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2005-09-16 3:35 ` Ronald G Minnich
2005-09-15 15:32 ` Lucio De Re
2005-09-15 15:40 ` Ronald G Minnich
2005-09-15 15:49 ` jmk
2005-09-27 17:05 ` Ronald G Minnich
2005-09-15 16:00 ` Steve Simon
2005-09-16 2:17 ` Kenji Okamoto
2005-09-15 15:24 ` Lucio De Re
2005-09-15 15:44 ` Ronald G Minnich
2005-09-15 15:49 ` Brantley Coile
2005-09-15 19:13 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2005-09-15 12:47 Fco. J. Ballesteros
2005-09-15 12:50 ` Charles Forsyth
2005-09-15 14:03 ` Ronald G Minnich
2005-09-15 17:31 ` ISHWAR RATTAN
2005-09-15 19:55 ` ISHWAR RATTAN
2005-09-15 20:09 ` Uriel
2005-09-15 18:28 ` Dave Eckhardt
2005-09-15 18:57 ` Russ Cox
2005-09-16 5:20 ` Dave Eckhardt
2005-09-16 6:40 ` Charles Forsyth
2005-09-16 13:34 ` erik quanstrom
2005-09-16 13:47 ` Uriel
2005-09-19 3:00 ` Bruce Ellis
2005-09-16 16:14 ` Dave Eckhardt
2005-09-15 11:48 ISHWAR RATTAN
2005-09-15 12:03 ` Steve Simon
2005-09-15 18:33 ` Enache Adrian
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