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From: David Presotto <presotto@closedmind.org>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] pathetic
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 09:41:45 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <432cc1450cf2156898da7bd905ce35b1@plan9.bell-labs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0402260735370.19744-100000@maxroach.lanl.gov>

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He has the power.  All mail WILL go through a single Miscrosoft
server that will charge everyone 40 cents for each mail message.
Spammers won't be able to afford it.  Problem solved.  Won't
need SPF because there will be only one mail server to read
your mail from and to relay mail.

The 1000000 users that aren't running microsoft
and not using the server can spam each other all they want.

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From: ron minnich <rminnich@lanl.gov>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] pathetic
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 07:36:44 -0700 (MST)
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0402260735370.19744-100000@maxroach.lanl.gov>

On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Douglas A. Gwyn wrote:

> Of course separate I&D doesn't solve buffer overrun problems,
> which can still modify the buggy program's data in ways that
> the programmer did not plan for.  The attacker gets less
> control if he can't force-feed instructions, but he can still
> wreak havoc.  If nothing else, he can cause denial of service.


That's the best part. They're pumping in 40-year-old ideas, claiming they
are new, and claiming they'll fix something they done.

Still, that's the PC biz for you. Anybody see that picture of Mr. Bill
claiming he will solve the spam problem? quite funny.

ron

  reply	other threads:[~2004-02-26 14:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-02-25 15:26 ron minnich
2004-02-25 15:41 ` Derek Fawcus
2004-02-25 16:02   ` ron minnich
2004-02-26  1:15     ` Derek Fawcus
2004-02-26  3:45       ` ron minnich
2004-02-26  4:12         ` Derek Fawcus
2004-02-26  6:48         ` boyd, rounin
2004-02-26  6:41       ` boyd, rounin
2004-02-25 16:26 ` Aharon Robbins
2004-02-26  6:02 ` boyd, rounin
2004-02-26 10:41 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2004-02-26 11:32   ` Charles Forsyth
2004-02-26 11:33     ` Geoff Collyer
2004-02-26 12:39     ` Dave Lukes
2004-02-26 12:11       ` boyd, rounin
2004-02-26 13:42   ` dbailey27
2004-02-26 14:36   ` ron minnich
2004-02-26 14:41     ` David Presotto [this message]
2004-02-26 14:40       ` dbailey27
2004-02-26 14:47       ` ron minnich
2004-02-26 14:44         ` dbailey27
2004-02-26 15:28           ` ron minnich
2004-02-26 15:38             ` George Michaelson
2004-02-26 16:16               ` ron minnich
2004-02-26 17:32                 ` [9fans] SPF+SMTP C H Forsyth
2004-03-01 10:34               ` [9fans] pathetic Vin McLellan
2004-02-26 15:38             ` dbailey27
2004-02-26 14:58               ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-02-26 15:53                 ` dbailey27
2004-02-27  9:01             ` boyd, rounin
2004-02-27 10:52               ` Geoff Collyer
2004-02-27 13:07                 ` David Presotto
2004-02-27 20:26                   ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2004-02-27 22:22                   ` Tristan Seligmann
2004-02-27 23:36                   ` Geoff Collyer
2004-02-27 13:42                 ` Dave Lukes
2004-02-27 15:42                   ` a
2004-02-27 17:45                     ` 9nut
2004-02-27 23:10                     ` boyd, rounin
2004-02-29 21:11                     ` boyd, rounin
2004-02-26 15:16         ` C H Forsyth
2004-02-26 15:37           ` Dave Lukes
2004-02-26 17:55         ` jmk
2004-02-26 19:23           ` Richard Miller
2004-02-26 19:35             ` jmk
2004-02-26 19:50               ` Richard Miller
2004-02-27 11:04           ` Dan Moniz
2004-02-26 20:46     ` boyd, rounin
2004-02-26 15:37 ` Derek Fawcus

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