From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <436E6941.9010706@village.com> Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 15:36:17 -0500 From: Wes Kussmaul User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] web apps References: <20051106074115.GD80710@cassie.foobarbaz.net> <6B29D150-6EE7-4168-88FA-395634ACBB91@orthanc.ca> In-Reply-To: <6B29D150-6EE7-4168-88FA-395634ACBB91@orthanc.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Topicbox-Message-UUID: a7182c0e-ead0-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 re Christopher Nielsen's observations about AJAX and pushing interface=20 stuff into the browser and the like, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > Sun had this figured out in the late 1980s, although they didn't know =20 > it at the time: it was called NeWS. (See, they even had a k33wl =20 > graffiti name for it.) Many had it figured out, but they were the ones who understood what the=20 Net was about. To make the Net greppable by the masses, we needed to apply the page=20 turning paradigm, i.e. the Web, i.e. don't be scared of the Internet,=20 it's just a bunch of colorful brochures, nothing really interactive (scar= y) Now that the masses have got it, have seen javascript etc. in action and=20 are no longer (too) frightened by real interactivity, they are looking=20 for what we had in the eighties. In this medium the distance between the=20 bleeding edge and the masses is twenty "light" years. So (to mix in one more metaphor) it's a jump ball all over again. The=20 question to ask is not how the Web evolves but what follows the Web. Remember when Gopher was the ultimate Internet domain, Gopher completed=20 the Internet, nothing much would happen after Gopher? Here we are again. This will be fun. --=20 Wes Kussmaul CIO The Village Group 738 Main Street Waltham, MA 02451 781-647-7178 The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments=20 to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s)=20 and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not=20 the intended recipient, please notify attorney Mort Hapless at Vulner,=20 Exposed & Wideopen LLP immediately at either (781) 647-7178, or at=20 ohoh@vulex.com, and destroy all copies of this message and any=20 attachments. No, really. Really. Listen, we mean it! Hey, if you don=92t=20 stop reading that confidential stuff about our client you=92re in big=20 trouble. OK, we=92re the ones in trouble but we=92ll find a way to go aft= er=20 you, or at least we think we may be able to. Look, we=92re begging you.=20 Just click the delete button and move on to a message that concerns you,=20 OK? Please?? We'll buy you lunch... Identity is the Foundation of Security=99. Let The Village Group=20 (village.com) ensure that only intended recipients receive your=20 confidential messages.