From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 20:48:38 -0500 From: John Floren To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Message-id: <436ABDF6.1020901@moseslake-wa.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Debian Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20051002) Subject: [9fans] cdrom drive problems Topicbox-Message-UUID: a4d959f4-ead0-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 Hello everyone. I've got an old Pentium machine here, and I'm trying to install Plan 9 on it. It has a hard drive at primary master and a cdrom drive at secondary master. When I put in the boot cd (downloaded from the Bell Labs website) and try to boot, I can get as far as a boot prompt saying boot devices: fd0 boot from: After that, no dice. I've tried the old reliable "sdD0!cdboot!9pcflop.gz", but I get an error saying that there is no cdboot partition on the disk. This same disk loads fine in qemu, so it is not a burn problem. Could it be that my IDE controller is simply not supported? Would using the 9grid.de iso image help? Thanks John Floren -- http://nuwen.net/~digi/cluster Jealousy is all the fun you think they have. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <126a2f7d0511041139q625cb2fej47720e7ea5dbce4e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 23:39:56 +0400 From: Sergey Zhilkin To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] cdrom drive problems In-Reply-To: <436ABDF6.1020901@moseslake-wa.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6651_21840738.1131133196281" References: <436ABDF6.1020901@moseslake-wa.com> Topicbox-Message-UUID: a59251ca-ead0-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 ------=_Part_6651_21840738.1131133196281 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Just try the floppy disk from plan9.bell-labs.com:) On 11/4/05, John Floren wrote: > > Hello everyone. > I've got an old Pentium machine here, and I'm trying to install Plan 9 > on it. It has a hard drive at primary master and a cdrom drive at > secondary master. When I put in the boot cd (downloaded from the Bell > Labs website) and try to boot, I can get as far as a boot prompt saying > boot devices: fd0 > boot from: > > After that, no dice. I've tried the old reliable > "sdD0!cdboot!9pcflop.gz", but I get an error saying that there is no > cdboot partition on the disk. This same disk loads fine in qemu, so it > is not a burn problem. Could it be that my IDE controller is simply not > supported? Would using the 9grid.de iso image help? > Thanks > > John Floren > -- > http://nuwen.net/~digi/cluster > Jealousy is all the fun you think they have. > ------=_Part_6651_21840738.1131133196281 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Just try the floppy disk from plan9.= bell-labs.com :)

On 11/4/05, <= b class=3D"gmail_sendername">John Floren < jfloren@moseslake-wa.com> wrote:
Hello everyone.
I've got an old Pentium mac= hine here, and I'm trying to install Plan 9
on it.  It has a hard drive at primary master and a cdrom dri= ve at
secondary master.  When I put in the boot cd (downloaded= from the Bell
Labs website) and try to boot, I can get as far as a boot= prompt saying
boot devices: fd0
boot from:

After that, no dice.  I've= tried the old reliable
"sdD0!cdboot!9pcflop.gz", but I get an= error saying that there is no
cdboot partition on the disk.  = This same disk loads fine in qemu, so it
is not a burn problem.  Could it be that my IDE controller is= simply not
supported?  Would using the 9grid.de iso image help?
Thanks

John Floren
--
http://nuwen.net/~digi/cluster
Jealousy is all the fun you think the= y have.

------=_Part_6651_21840738.1131133196281-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 14:45:19 -0500 From: John Floren Subject: Re: [9fans] cdrom drive problems In-reply-to: <126a2f7d0511041139q625cb2fej47720e7ea5dbce4e@mail.gmail.com> To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Message-id: <436BBA4F.1090108@moseslake-wa.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Debian Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20051002) References: <436ABDF6.1020901@moseslake-wa.com> <126a2f7d0511041139q625cb2fej47720e7ea5dbce4e@mail.gmail.com> Topicbox-Message-UUID: a6029c8c-ead0-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 Sergey Zhilkin wrote: > Just try the floppy disk from plan9.bell-labs.com > :) > > On 11/4/05, *John Floren* < jfloren@moseslake-wa.com > > wrote: > > Hello everyone. > I've got an old Pentium machine here, and I'm trying to install Plan 9 > on it. It has a hard drive at primary master and a cdrom drive at > secondary master. When I put in the boot cd (downloaded from the Bell > Labs website) and try to boot, I can get as far as a boot prompt saying > boot devices: fd0 > boot from: > > After that, no dice. I've tried the old reliable > "sdD0!cdboot!9pcflop.gz", but I get an error saying that there is no > cdboot partition on the disk. This same disk loads fine in qemu, so it > is not a burn problem. Could it be that my IDE controller is simply not > supported? Would using the 9grid.de iso image help? > Thanks > > John Floren > -- > http://nuwen.net/~digi/cluster > Jealousy is all the fun you think they have. > > Problem is locating a floppy disk :-) -- http://nuwen.net/~digi/cluster Every journalist has a novel in him, which is an excellent place for it. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <126a2f7d0511052345k241c0487s5769390cb52ae791@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 11:45:07 +0400 From: Sergey Zhilkin To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] cdrom drive problems In-Reply-To: <436BBA4F.1090108@moseslake-wa.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_501_1468492.1131263107206" References: <436ABDF6.1020901@moseslake-wa.com> <126a2f7d0511041139q625cb2fej47720e7ea5dbce4e@mail.gmail.com> <436BBA4F.1090108@moseslake-wa.com> Topicbox-Message-UUID: a6af4dba-ead0-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 ------=_Part_501_1468492.1131263107206 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline http://plan9.bell-labs.com/magic/9down4e/reg?exportok=3Dyes&name=3D&company= =3D&email=3D Download :) Go to the shop and buy floppy disks :) Problem is locating a floppy disk :-) > > ------=_Part_501_1468492.1131263107206 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline http://plan9.bell-labs.com/magic/9down= 4e/reg?exportok=3Dyes&name=3D&company=3D&email=3D
Downlo= ad :) Go to the shop and buy floppy disks :)=20

Problem is locating a floppy disk :-)



------=_Part_501_1468492.1131263107206-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 18:53:30 -0500 From: John Floren Subject: Re: [9fans] cdrom drive problems In-reply-to: <126a2f7d0511041139q625cb2fej47720e7ea5dbce4e@mail.gmail.com> To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Message-id: <436FE8FA.7060507@moseslake-wa.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Debian Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20051002) References: <436ABDF6.1020901@moseslake-wa.com> <126a2f7d0511041139q625cb2fej47720e7ea5dbce4e@mail.gmail.com> Topicbox-Message-UUID: a88e6544-ead0-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 Sergey Zhilkin wrote: > Just try the floppy disk from plan9.bell-labs.com > :) > I just thought of this... if I have to boot the installer from a floppy, will I have to boot the system (once installed) from a floppy as well? If 9load or whatever it is can't handle booting from CDROM, will it work with my hard drive? John -- http://nuwen.net/~digi/cluster That's no moon... -- Obi-wan Kenobi From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 19:06:24 -0500 From: Russ Cox To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] cdrom drive problems In-Reply-To: <436FE8FA.7060507@moseslake-wa.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <436ABDF6.1020901@moseslake-wa.com> <126a2f7d0511041139q625cb2fej47720e7ea5dbce4e@mail.gmail.com> <436FE8FA.7060507@moseslake-wa.com> Topicbox-Message-UUID: a8987b60-ead0-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > I just thought of this... if I have to boot the installer from a floppy, > will I have to boot the system (once installed) from a floppy as well? > If 9load or whatever it is can't handle booting from CDROM, will it work > with my hard drive? It's very common for 9load to have trouble with recognizing certain CDROMs. It has no such trouble with IDE disks. Russ From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 19:44:53 -0500 From: John Floren Subject: Re: [9fans] cdrom drive problems In-reply-to: To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Message-id: <436FF505.6070003@moseslake-wa.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Debian Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20051002) References: <436ABDF6.1020901@moseslake-wa.com> <126a2f7d0511041139q625cb2fej47720e7ea5dbce4e@mail.gmail.com> <436FE8FA.7060507@moseslake-wa.com> Topicbox-Message-UUID: a89e94aa-ead0-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 Russ Cox wrote: >>I just thought of this... if I have to boot the installer from a floppy, >>will I have to boot the system (once installed) from a floppy as well? >>If 9load or whatever it is can't handle booting from CDROM, will it work >>with my hard drive? > > > It's very common for 9load to have trouble with > recognizing certain CDROMs. It has no such trouble > with IDE disks. > > Russ > > . > It has been unable to recognize either of the two CDROM drives I've tried... could it be that my IDE controller is the problem? John -- http://nuwen.net/~digi/cluster That's no moon... -- Obi-wan Kenobi From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 19:58:32 -0500 From: Russ Cox To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] cdrom drive problems In-Reply-To: <436FF505.6070003@moseslake-wa.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <436ABDF6.1020901@moseslake-wa.com> <126a2f7d0511041139q625cb2fej47720e7ea5dbce4e@mail.gmail.com> <436FE8FA.7060507@moseslake-wa.com> <436FF505.6070003@moseslake-wa.com> Topicbox-Message-UUID: a8a6efc4-ead0-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > It has been unable to recognize either of the two CDROM drives I've > tried... could it be that my IDE controller is the problem? Sure, but the problems are always with detecting the CDROM, not detecting the hard disks (they are completely different things as far as the IDE controllers are concerned). Just try the boot floppy. Russ