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From: "Brian L. Stuart" <blstuart@bellsouth.net>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan9 topology
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 13:59:18 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <438932.84719.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1101131406120.4272@fryrpg-zna>

> I see! I mis-understood what you meant by "Plan 9
> terminal". I thought
> that the Plan 9 Live CD gave you a choice of either
> installing the
> Plan 9 server or a Plan 9 client/terminal. I now see that
> that there
> are terminals available on various OSes to connect to a
> Plan 9
> server.

It has become a little confusing over
the last 20 years.  In a way too brief
way, here are the basic incarnations of
Plan9:

- Natively running the current Plan9 kernel
   - Stand-alone terminal with its own fs
   - Terminal (possibly diskless) talking
     to an external fs
   - CPU, auth, or file server (or some
     combination)
   All of these are running Plan9 as their
   "bare metal" OS
- Same as above but in a virtual machine,
  such as virtualbox, vmware, qemu, etc.
- Ken's FS: a file server that runs on
  bare hardware
- 9vx: a port of the Plan9 kernel to vx32
  that allows a full Plan9 system to run
  as a user-level application on another
  system, including Linux, FreeBSD, Mac OSX
- drawterm: an earlier port of a limited
  Plan9 kernel that's similar to a terminal
  connecting to a remote CPU server
- P9P (aka Plan9 ports, Plan9 from user
  space): a port of the Plan9 user apps
  to POSIX-like systems
And just for fun these can all play together.
At the moment, I'm using a MacOS machine
that has one file system mounted using
the P9P 9pfuse program.  It's also running
an instance of virtualbox that's net booted
a Plan9 terminal.  There's also an instance
of 9vx running which is accessing the file
system mounted via P9P.  All of these pieces
are talking to a Plan9 CPU server which
in turn uses a Ken FS file server.

>  I did see that `wily', an
> Linux ACME
> clone is available. Guess what I did? :)

I remember playing with wily quite a lot
a while back.  With Russ's P9P port of
acme, though, you can run the real acme
as a Linux app too.

> I just checked - it's a 166Mhz P-I with 98M RAM and 4.5G
> HDD. Made a
> good dedicated mail server. May not have enough gonads for
> a Plan 9
> server though.

I wouldn't dismiss it entirely.  My old
Plan9 CPU/auth/file server at home had
a very similar configuration.

BLS




  reply	other threads:[~2011-01-13 21:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-13 18:38 Duke Normandin
2011-01-13 18:48 ` dukeofperl
2011-01-13 18:50 ` David Leimbach
2011-01-13 19:16   ` Skip Tavakkolian
2011-01-13 19:31     ` Duke Normandin
2011-01-13 19:37       ` Jacob Todd
2011-01-13 19:44       ` Skip Tavakkolian
2011-01-13 20:08         ` Duke Normandin
2011-01-13 21:01           ` Tassilo Philipp
2011-01-13 21:39           ` Brian L. Stuart
2011-01-13 22:49             ` Duke Normandin
2011-01-14  3:27               ` blstuart
2011-01-14  4:02                 ` erik quanstrom
2011-01-14  4:18                   ` Duke Normandin
2011-01-14  4:04                 ` Duke Normandin
2011-01-14  0:00           ` Federico G. Benavento
2011-01-14  3:26             ` Duke Normandin
2011-01-13 19:46     ` Bakul Shah
2011-01-13 20:11       ` erik quanstrom
2011-01-13 19:40   ` Duke Normandin
2011-01-13 20:07     ` John Floren
2011-01-13 20:24       ` Duke Normandin
2011-01-13 20:40         ` John Floren
2011-01-13 21:37           ` Duke Normandin
2011-01-13 21:59             ` Brian L. Stuart [this message]
2011-01-13 22:32               ` Duke Normandin
2011-01-13 23:18             ` John Floren
2011-01-14  3:42               ` Duke Normandin
2011-01-14  4:03                 ` John Floren
2011-01-14  4:05                   ` erik quanstrom
2011-01-14  4:15                   ` Duke Normandin
2011-01-14  4:22                     ` John Floren
2011-01-14  4:31                       ` Duke Normandin
2011-01-14  4:35                         ` Jacob Todd
2011-01-14 17:51                         ` Bakul Shah
2011-01-14 17:54                           ` erik quanstrom
2011-01-14 18:14                             ` Bakul Shah
2011-01-14 19:13                               ` erik quanstrom
2011-01-14 19:24                                 ` Duke Normandin
2011-01-14 20:44                                 ` Bakul Shah
2011-01-14 18:15                             ` Charles Forsyth
2011-01-14 18:14                         ` Federico G. Benavento
2011-01-14 18:35                           ` Duke Normandin
2011-01-14 14:58 erik quanstrom
2011-01-14 17:14 ` Duke Normandin
2011-01-14 17:40   ` erik quanstrom
2011-01-14 18:58     ` Duke Normandin
2011-01-14 19:09       ` erik quanstrom
2011-01-14 19:23       ` Charles Forsyth
2011-01-14 19:22         ` Duke Normandin
2011-01-15  0:16           ` Charles Forsyth

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