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Date: Fri,  3 Feb 2006 19:59:30 -0700
From: Ronald G Minnich <rminnich@lanl.gov>
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Subject: [9fans] acme + mh
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how is it working out for people? I have been using Sirius Cybernetics 
Thunderbird, which was supposed to be some kind of Miracle Mail program, 
and am finding it to be less than perfect. Actually, it kinda sucks. It 
has an autocomplete that is wrong in a very annoying fashion, since it 
is usually right, but goes wrong in very strange ways, and your mail to 
andrey goes to andrew before you know it -- you type andrey, it 
autocompletes in some strange way, it ignores the 'y' -- I've tested 
this a few times. Happy People Movers have nothing on the Sirius 
Cybernetics Thunderbird mail program!

It has a way of deciding that once the network is gone, and you send, 
you can never retry the send again in some cases without exiting the 
damned thing (it just happened again while editing this message: "the 
mail server is gone. It won't be back ever again. It's hopeless. I won't 
even try. You humans really enjoy this kind of thing, don't you? I'm so 
depressed. I'll just go in a corner and rust" -- I wish!).

The list goes on, but I am overall finding that it is a very happy-puppy 
like piece of software, anxious to get in there and do things for you, 
making you trip over it, and most of the time making you want to tell it 
to shut up and go hide in a corner before you get out a rolled-up 
newspaper.

I especially like the way, when viewing messages, you hit 'delete' to 
kill the message and move on, and it somehow loses track of what it was 
doing, so it's no longer pointing to any message, and you have to grab 
the mouse and find a message to select so you can proceeed. Weird. The 
gnome library seems to have a lot of this strange corner case behavior. 
(the list goes on .... it's interesting to have to resize ethereal 
windows so you can get the vertical scrollbar to realize that you just 
traced 10,000 packets, and want to see more than the 12 currently shown)

What I want is a mail reader that will ... oh, never mind, I think I 
want the macos x mail reader. But who knows, maybe that's as bad as all 
the others.

how easy is it to read mail, refile mail, search mail, etc. Any comments 
on usability? If you do like it, what other mail clients have you used? 
Inquiring, happy-puppy-fatigued minds want to know!

thanks

ron