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From: Marina Brown <marina@surferz.net>
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Ronald G Minnich wrote:

> how is it working out for people? I have been using Sirius Cybernetics 
> Thunderbird, which was supposed to be some kind of Miracle Mail 
> program, and am finding it to be less than perfect. Actually, it kinda 
> sucks. It has an autocomplete that is wrong in a very annoying 
> fashion, since it is usually right, but goes wrong in very strange 
> ways, and your mail to andrey goes to andrew before you know it -- you 
> type andrey, it autocompletes in some strange way, it ignores the 'y' 
> -- I've tested this a few times. Happy People Movers have nothing on 
> the Sirius Cybernetics Thunderbird mail program!
>
> It has a way of deciding that once the network is gone, and you send, 
> you can never retry the send again in some cases without exiting the 
> damned thing (it just happened again while editing this message: "the 
> mail server is gone. It won't be back ever again. It's hopeless. I 
> won't even try. You humans really enjoy this kind of thing, don't you? 
> I'm so depressed. I'll just go in a corner and rust" -- I wish!).
>
> The list goes on, but I am overall finding that it is a very 
> happy-puppy like piece of software, anxious to get in there and do 
> things for you, making you trip over it, and most of the time making 
> you want to tell it to shut up and go hide in a corner before you get 
> out a rolled-up newspaper.
>
> I especially like the way, when viewing messages, you hit 'delete' to 
> kill the message and move on, and it somehow loses track of what it 
> was doing, so it's no longer pointing to any message, and you have to 
> grab the mouse and find a message to select so you can proceeed. 
> Weird. The gnome library seems to have a lot of this strange corner 
> case behavior. (the list goes on .... it's interesting to have to 
> resize ethereal windows so you can get the vertical scrollbar to 
> realize that you just traced 10,000 packets, and want to see more than 
> the 12 currently shown)
>
> What I want is a mail reader that will ... oh, never mind, I think I 
> want the macos x mail reader. But who knows, maybe that's as bad as 
> all the others.
>
> how easy is it to read mail, refile mail, search mail, etc. Any 
> comments on usability? If you do like it, what other mail clients have 
> you used? Inquiring, happy-puppy-fatigued minds want to know!
>
> thanks
>
> ron
>
>
>
At work and for my lists i use mozilla thunderbird which sucks - but 
less than other
stuff that can view html. I wish i could turn off all fonts. I hate fonts.

For my personal mail it's pine, which sucks but feels like home.

-- Marina Brown