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Subject: Re: [9fans] porting from vs. porting to Plan 9
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Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:28:03 -0600
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> i don't see why that couldn't drive draw directly.
> (i thought tinygl would do for my own purposes.)

tinygl is a mess that doesn't even look right...

MesaGL 5.0.1 has been sitting largely compiled in $home since June
15th..  It needs a driver for the software renderer and for glut,
which I believe is the harder of the two.

it also needs time, which nobody seems to have.

as fo rrewriting X apps for libdraw, it is relatively straightforward
to translate the simple X primitives into libdraw ones.  the
xscreensaver hacks are an example.

i think Geoff is right -- without somebody being able to work
full-time on those things nothing will get done.  the bubble burst and
the code that depended on developers' spare time is moving ahead
slower and slower -- see how long it took for FBSD 5.0 to come out.

Linux, on the other hand, has at least one full-time developer at
every major corporation working for it.  it's the one with the
momentum behind it.