From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <4400cfa5ffd50dcf686dddc51dcfd60f@yourdomain.dom> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan9 for a newbie From: benavento@gmail.com (Federico G. Benavento) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 19:02:31 -0300 In-Reply-To: <13426df10703081340u4a6fdbc8w6ac44c0ceb12c63b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-cdgrutkujplybiuyiwnxflqkqu" Topicbox-Message-UUID: 1c92a562-ead2-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-cdgrutkujplybiuyiwnxflqkqu Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I like to show this rc script to newbies http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/contrib/fgb/rc/telnet yes, Plan 9 is this powerful Federico G. Benavento --- /bin/fortune: When the going gets tough, the tough go shopping. --upas-cdgrutkujplybiuyiwnxflqkqu Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Delivered-To: benavento@gmail.com Received: by 10.70.16.8 with SMTP id 8cs12974wxp; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 13:40:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.219.1 with SMTP id w1mr1607918qbq.1173390042245; Thu, 08 Mar 2007 13:40:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: <9fans-bounces+benavento=gmail.com@cse.psu.edu> Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id q17si1057515qbq.2007.03.08.13.40.41; Thu, 08 Mar 2007 13:40:42 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of 9fans-bounces+benavento=gmail.com@cse.psu.edu designates 130.203.4.6 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: good (test mode) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 23C7EA841 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 16:40:41 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 812B4A6D5 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 16:40:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 20431-01-62 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 16:40:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0D9585B497 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 16:40:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n15so805327nfc for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 08 Mar 2007 13:40:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=NWXJ+P2G2rSnD7tlLH9gZKhX/FohiwqprL+ORcR2V36KZzsO7snLP9F4kEvVXF18Co3ue8pUY0DAqWfnxzdaj0e1Z3Lo+7PAtjpZOseNZb04SUotSDdDHC7R1/9tIlVt2irglO6Jccd6cUFAqnQ77tBiDCCBRAPXn/kU7kGFZoI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=kUnB3hpRo8Y9Sr3ZH906rRhEe0RlBrUSHr4wdTSuyasmKSVTRGdUMA1kMafLXRX/ZOLBurx7cIphQ3lXkLQeiu3MdrlqoDuX0zc6wsTN3In/q5vS+CGGJnVT6dvMW72/Qbwr8G8gI42lnQPZDMfiownlExUR1TBH364chauQElM= Received: by 10.78.176.20 with SMTP id y20mr122360hue.1173390010827; Thu, 08 Mar 2007 13:40:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.50.2 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 13:40:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <13426df10703081340u4a6fdbc8w6ac44c0ceb12c63b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 14:40:10 -0700 From: "ron minnich" To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan9 for a newbie In-Reply-To: <45F072F9.10903@watford53.freeserve.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <45F072F9.10903@watford53.freeserve.co.uk> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+benavento=gmail.com@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+benavento=gmail.com@cse.psu.edu who needs command history? grep something /dev/text Also, I saw something in X11 lately. It was a desktop with a bunch of xterms. When you resized one xterm, all the others resized so they all remained tiled. Plan 9 has had this for many years. Startup acme. Put win in the top tagline. middle-click 6 or 7 tiimes. Not only do you get the same thing, but you can trivially edit and do things in each window. Try acme mail. Not perfect, but man it's faster than thunderbird. And look at how it handles attachments. Very cool. Start up a rio term window. Note that it is NOT a teletype attached to a window, as in X11. After all, xterms have a baud rate. Just mouse up, and note you can edit stuff. Suppose you have a bunch of junk in a window, and you don't want to see it, but you want the rest. On Unix, you type 'clear' and start again. In the rio term window, just select a bunch of text, and delete it. Learn chords, like left-button-select, then middle. Then left, and right. Very handy. Run rio in a term window. 9fs sources. cd /n/sources. Have fun. Run abaco. Note that you can tile web pages horizontally and vertically. And you can see all the URLs ... See how much code it takes to write a web browser in plan 9 -- look at abaco source. note there is no 'ftp' command. Who the heck needs ftp? Just run ftpfs. Done. tarfs. There's just so much stuff there. Check out acid -- see how it works. See how it's built. Then wonder "why isn't every debugger built this way". man plumber. The list is pretty endless. It just shows that with the right starting point, you can do so much better than linux or x11 or all the stuff we take for granted. I get really angry sometimes, using Linux. In fact I just broke the U key on this laptop 2 days ago -- typed just a little too hard and off it went. Now there's just a funny little blue thing where U used to be. thanks ron --upas-cdgrutkujplybiuyiwnxflqkqu--