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From: Ronald G Minnich <rminnich@lanl.gov>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] [OT] linux origins, why not?
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 18:29:58 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <442B3496.9060308@lanl.gov> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3a2c5ee90758f46a3696656c51a44025@quanstro.net>

quanstro@quanstro.net wrote:

> mach was developed at cmu and freely available, wasn't it? the documentation
> was (tree killers).


best Mach phrase: "micro kernel doesn't mean it is small, just that it
does not do much".

from a flame war that erupted when the leviathan mach 3.0 came out.

Well, it may have been big, but at least it was slow.

Lots of good research came out of mach ... not what you think. sandia
national labs has done lots of great OS work for 10 years, or so,
spurred on by the unusable Mach-derived OSF-1/MK-AD that came on their
paragon, and the need to toss it and start clean. SNL did some very nice
work, all due to the need to get rid of the "micro kernel".

ron


  reply	other threads:[~2006-03-30  1:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-03-28  0:40 [9fans] new compilers erik quanstrom
2006-03-28 17:52 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2006-03-28 18:15   ` Bakul Shah
2006-03-28 18:29     ` Sape Mullender
2006-03-28 18:52       ` LiteStar numnums
2006-03-28 19:13         ` [9fans] [OT] hypothetical questions Russ Cox
2006-03-28 19:28           ` Brantley Coile
2006-03-28 20:26             ` LiteStar numnums
2006-03-28 21:18               ` Lou Kamenov
2006-03-29  6:14                 ` Bruce Ellis
2006-03-28 19:41           ` David Leimbach
2006-03-28 19:15         ` [9fans] new compilers Victor Nazarov
2006-03-28 19:22           ` [9fans] [OT] linus, the early years Charles Forsyth
2006-03-28 20:07             ` Victor Nazarov
2006-03-29 16:33           ` [9fans] new compilers Burton Samograd
2006-03-29 16:49             ` [9fans] [OT] linux origins, why not? Victor Nazarov
2006-03-29 18:04               ` Burton Samograd
2006-03-29 18:45                 ` Federico G. Benavento
2006-03-29 19:41                   ` andrey mirtchovski
2006-03-29 23:27                 ` Dave Eckhardt
2006-03-30  0:38                   ` quanstro
2006-03-30  1:29                     ` Ronald G Minnich [this message]
2006-03-30  2:40                       ` quanstro
2006-03-30  1:55                         ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-03-30  2:13                         ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-03-30  4:26                         ` jmk
2006-03-30 16:08                         ` David Leimbach
2006-03-30 16:02                       ` David Leimbach
2006-03-30 18:14                     ` Dave Eckhardt
2006-03-30 12:46                   ` Brantley Coile
2006-03-30 13:43                     ` Richard Miller
2006-03-30 13:49                       ` Brantley Coile
2006-03-29 18:20               ` Skip Tavakkolian
2006-03-29 18:58                 ` Victor Nazarov
2006-03-29 23:16               ` lucio
2006-03-30  2:00                 ` Martin C. Atkins
2006-03-30  5:06                   ` lucio
2006-03-29 21:17             ` [9fans] new compilers Francisco J Ballesteros
2006-03-29 21:44               ` Wes Kussmaul
2006-04-02 18:17       ` Aharon Robbins
2006-04-02 18:33         ` Bruce Ellis
2006-04-02 19:47         ` lucio
2006-04-02 20:12           ` Skip Tavakkolian
2006-04-02 20:16             ` LiteStar numnums
2006-04-03  4:35               ` lucio
2006-04-03  5:38                 ` George Michaelson
2006-04-03  6:45                   ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2006-04-03  5:38                 ` LiteStar numnums
2006-04-03  8:31                 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2006-04-03  9:36                   ` uriel
2006-04-03 12:50                     ` Martin C. Atkins
2006-04-03  9:39                   ` lucio
2006-04-03 13:46                 ` Brantley Coile
2006-04-03 14:30                 ` David Leimbach
2006-04-03 16:02                   ` Bruce Ellis
2006-04-03 20:41                     ` Jack Johnson
2006-04-03 21:02                       ` uriel
2006-04-03 21:32                         ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-04-03 23:42                           ` Bruce Ellis
2006-04-04  0:29                           ` Anthony Sorace
2006-04-04  5:02                             ` Bruce Ellis
2006-04-04  3:15                         ` Jack Johnson
2006-04-04  3:28                         ` Jack Johnson
2006-04-04  6:31                           ` David Leimbach
2006-04-04  4:21                         ` lucio
2006-04-05  1:00                         ` Brantley Coile
2006-04-05  4:35                           ` Bruce Ellis
2006-04-04 12:31                       ` rog
2006-04-03  3:17           ` plan9
2006-04-03  4:17             ` lucio
2006-03-30 11:38 [9fans] [OT] linux origins, why not? erik quanstrom

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