From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <444e999c69b8f67c65ef2ff9ce520927@terzarima.net> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] port/devcons.c is not port-able From: Charles Forsyth Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 21:14:59 +0100 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-hogypmsnojngpkmbbmtkcssnqp" Topicbox-Message-UUID: c137473a-eacd-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-hogypmsnojngpkmbbmtkcssnqp Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit actually, although i thought it could have been better in many ways, i didn't think USB-the-protocol was all that bad. the class/subclass/proto from the start was obviously going to go the way of most global numbering systems, but the real difficulty was the strange hardware/software interface produced to drive it. it was differently strange for everyone. ambiguities in the standard as regards the nature of endpoints didn't help. i wonder if we ever make progress. now, of course, it would have a SOAPy web services enabled interface accessed by jakartatomcataxis servers in sillycon. --upas-hogypmsnojngpkmbbmtkcssnqp Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by lavoro; Wed Jul 14 20:46:09 BST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AA2A619F27 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 15:43:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (neuromancer.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4807419D0E for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 15:43:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by localhost (neuromancer [130.203.4.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 16393-01-8 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 15:42:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailwasher-b.lanl.gov (mailwasher.lanl.gov [192.16.0.25]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6345619B72 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 15:42:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailrelay1.lanl.gov (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailwasher-b.lanl.gov (8.12.10/8.12.10/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id i6EJgtCp019624 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 13:42:56 -0600 Received: from ccs-mail.lanl.gov (ccs-mail.lanl.gov [128.165.4.126]) by mailrelay1.lanl.gov (8.12.10/8.12.11/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id i6EJgt1p028627 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 13:42:55 -0600 Received: from maxroach.lanl.gov (maxroach.lanl.gov [128.165.250.187]) by ccs-mail.lanl.gov (8.12.10/8.12.10/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id i6EJgrwO032394 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 13:42:53 -0600 Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 13:42:53 -0600 (MDT) From: ron minnich To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] port/devcons.c is not port-able In-Reply-To: <200407141829.i6EITpP03415@augusta.math.psu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.6.0.99824 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+forsyth=terzarima.net@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+forsyth=terzarima.net@cse.psu.edu On Wed, 14 Jul 2004, Dan Cross wrote: > ron minnich writes: > > The keyboard-less, vga-less, serial-less nodes are all blades at this > > point. [[some not sold yet ]] > > Oo! Oo! Do they have USB?? Okay, I'm going back into my corner now. sadly, yes. Vendors like that usb stuff for some reason. It makes my brain hurt, watching the gyrations of people trying to write boot code for USB dongles. ron --upas-hogypmsnojngpkmbbmtkcssnqp--