[9fans] minix the micokernel is back! a slashdot take

[9fans] minix the micokernel is back! a slashdot take

[Aharon Robbins]

A friend forwarded this to me. Thought the crowd here would
appreciate it.

> Just caught this on Slashdot...
>
> O Tanenbaum, O Tanenbaum
> Your microk3rn3l rul3z!
> O Tanenbaum, O Tanenbaum
> Those m0n0lithic foolz!
> They build a kernel all-in-one,
> Where all the bugs can have free run.
> O Tanenbaum, O Tanenbaum
> Those Linux guys just drool. ;)
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Re: [9fans] minix the micokernel is back! a slashdot take

[Rogelio Serrano]

On 5/12/06, Aharon Robbins <arnold@skeeve.com> wrote:
> A friend forwarded this to me. Thought the crowd here would
> appreciate it.
>
> > Just caught this on Slashdot...
> >
> > O Tanenbaum, O Tanenbaum
> > Your microk3rn3l rul3z!
> > O Tanenbaum, O Tanenbaum
> > Those m0n0lithic foolz!
> > They build a kernel all-in-one,
> > Where all the bugs can have free run.
> > O Tanenbaum, O Tanenbaum
> > Those Linux guys just drool. ;)
> --
> Aharon (Arnold) Robbins --- Pioneer Consulting Ltd.     arnold AT skeeve DOT com
> P.O. Box 354            Home Phone: +972  8 979-0381    Fax: +1 206 350 8765
> Nof Ayalon              Cell Phone: +972 50  729-7545
> D.N. Shimshon 99785     Laundry increases exponentially in the
> ISRAEL                  number of children. -- Miriam Robbins
>

Plan 9 is monolithic right?

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Re: [9fans] minix the micokernel is back! a slashdot take

[Russ Cox]

Plan 9 defies overbroad characterizations.

Russ

Re: [9fans] minix the micokernel is back! a slashdot take

[Rogelio Serrano]

Very well said!

On 5/12/06, Russ Cox <rsc@swtch.com> wrote:
> Plan 9 defies overbroad characterizations.
>
> Russ
>


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Re: [9fans] minix the micokernel is back! a slashdot take

[Dave Lukes]

Russ Cox wrote:
>  Plan 9 defies overbroad characterizations.

Sadly, it's not plan9 which has the problem with overbroad 
characterisations.
It's those damned human beings again.

DaveL

Re: [9fans] minix the micokernel is back! a slashdot take

[Dave Lukes]

 > Plan 9 is monolithic right?

 From the OED:
 monolithic:
  adjective
   1 formed of a single large block of stone.
   2 massive and uniform or indivisible.

Last time I looked plan9 wasn't made out of rocks,
and it fails parts 1 and 3 of definition #2.

    DaveL

Re: [9fans] minix the micokernel is back! a slashdot take

[ems]

On Fri, 2006-05-12 at 21:35 +0800, Rogelio Serrano wrote:
> On 5/12/06, Aharon Robbins <arnold@skeeve.com> wrote:
> > A friend forwarded this to me. Thought the crowd here would
> > appreciate it.
> >
> > > Just caught this on Slashdot...
> > >
> > > O Tanenbaum, O Tanenbaum
> > > Your microk3rn3l rul3z!
> > > O Tanenbaum, O Tanenbaum
> > > Those m0n0lithic foolz!
> > > They build a kernel all-in-one,
> > > Where all the bugs can have free run.
> > > O Tanenbaum, O Tanenbaum
> > > Those Linux guys just drool. ;)
> > --
> > Aharon (Arnold) Robbins --- Pioneer Consulting Ltd.     arnold AT skeeve DOT com
> > P.O. Box 354            Home Phone: +972  8 979-0381    Fax: +1 206 350 8765
> > Nof Ayalon              Cell Phone: +972 50  729-7545
> > D.N. Shimshon 99785     Laundry increases exponentially in the
> > ISRAEL                  number of children. -- Miriam Robbins
> >
> 
> Plan 9 is monolithic right?
> 
Hybrid.

Re: [9fans] minix the micokernel is back! a slashdot take

[erik quanstrom]

this was in response to tanenbaum's ieee article:

	http://www.computer.org/portal/site/computer/menuitem.5d61c1d591162e4b0ef1bd108bcd45f3/index.jsp?&pName=computer_level1_article&TheCat=1005&path=computer/homepage/0506&file=cover1.xml&xsl=article.xsl&

it's another purportedly general article that spends quite a bit of time talking about the latest version of minix.
i'm suprised that he didn't spend any time taking about amoeba.

plan 9 has the interesting ability to be as monolithic has one would like.
one could build the filesystem into the kernel, or not as is typical.
the network stack could live outside the kernel, or not as is typical.
the devdraw could live outside the kernel, or not as is typical.
etc.

for all these, the service could live on another machine.

- erik

On Fri May 12 08:04:26 CDT 2006, arnold@skeeve.com wrote:
> A friend forwarded this to me. Thought the crowd here would
> appreciate it.
> 
> > Just caught this on Slashdot...
> >
> > O Tanenbaum, O Tanenbaum
> > Your microk3rn3l rul3z!
> > O Tanenbaum, O Tanenbaum
> > Those m0n0lithic foolz!
> > They build a kernel all-in-one,
> > Where all the bugs can have free run.
> > O Tanenbaum, O Tanenbaum
> > Those Linux guys just drool. ;)